Model of 1911 US Army

[kwwms52]

I have a Colt Serial # 182xxx I know it isn't the right barrel in it and I made the grips on it...Ive had it for about 22-23 years. I have a set of grips ordered for it wood and for this era I am thinking thats right...I would like to find a barrel closer to the era for this gun anyone have any ideas? I would post pictures but I think the ones I have are to many pixels. Any information would be appreciated.

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/kwwms52/P1000081.jpg

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/kwwms52/P1000080.jpg

[bgiven]

You will need a 'H P' barrel, slide stop, and mainspring housing..... All on Ebay from time to time....

[Hawkmoon]

Your photos are smaller than 800x600 so I changed the links to display the photos directly. Hope you don't mind.

[kwwms52]

Nooo thats fine I am new to this and all the help I can get I appreciate!

[bgiven]

Your serial number 182,XXX was shipped sometime in 1917. If you want the exact shipment info, the rest of the serial number would be required. Your slide stop and mainspring housing are off a M1911A1 of WWII vintage. WWI mainspring housings were smooth and flat, and the slide stop had a milled cut under the thumb grip. The correct barrel for your serial number is a Colt Type 4 with a vertical 'H P' on top of the barrel hood.

If I can help you further....as I do have some of those parts.... contact me directly at bgiven@rbauction.com

Bob

[exitwounds]

The the correct mainspring housing will not only be flat, but will also have a lanyard loop. The one currently on the pistol is missing a lanyard loop, which if USGI was removed (in which case there would be two holes in the bottom of it) or ground off flush. If it never had a lanyard loop it is aftermarket or later commercial. Are there any markings on the magazine? Do you have any up close pictures of the hammer?

[kwwms52]

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/kwwms52/P1000091.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/kwwms52/P1000090.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/kwwms52/P1000088.jpg

[kwwms52]

well I can't seem to get the pictures posted right...anyway hope these are good enough to help out. Thanks for all the help

[Doran]

The slide is later than the frame. Pony should be aft of the slide serrations in that range.

[exitwounds]

Doran is correct, the Pony was found behind the serrations until mid 1918 to about sn 285000, so the slide is definitely of later vintage and mismatched to the frame. The picture was pretty blurred but appeared to show evidence that a lanyard loop may have been installed at some point.

[kwwms52]

Yes it showed that the lanyard had been ground off. Sorry I forgot to mention that and I knew the pictures weren't all that good...

[NightVision]

I have one of my early GI Army 1911 in front of me. The SN# 26316X made in 1918. Comparing the pictures shown the gun has been modified from original in comparision to mine.

The slide has been changed. The horse logo should be above the TS notch of the slide.

The grips have been changed.

The notch in the MS housing is clearance for the LL. Needs LL loop and pin.

The barrel is stainless not blued steel, not original.

Mag should be partially blued.

Otherwise a good starting platform for you. Good luck.

[exitwounds]

How did you determine it is stainless? I don't see that in the first picture or in this picture:
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/kwwms52/P1000088.jpg
it appears to have markings on the chamber hood (which is incorrect). But I don't see anything stainless about it. :confused:

[kwwms52]

I went down and pulled it out of the safe
it says ......Colt .45 auto
MK IV/series 70
I knew that this was totally wrong.

[NightVision]

In the picture, the barrel hood appears to have writing on it and appears shinny like stainless. Or is the barrel hood scraping on the slide causing those marks or a reflection from the camera flash. The original barrel on my gun is blued steel with P and H stamped on the hood.

[kwwms52]

its not worn and not stainless..its of a newer version the hood is just shinny the writing on it says ......Colt .45 auto
MK IV/series 70 So that would make me belive its of a real late commercial barrel not military? Maybe I am wrong tho?

[joninKS]

BGiven,

You mentioned in one of the posts above that for the slide release to be period it should have a "milled slot". Where exactly should this be. My release has a checkered top but I can't find a slot. All other parts of the pistol seem to be period, it even came with a magazine with an "A" on the top of the toe which 1911 Tuner ID'd as American Pin Co. and period for the pistol.

Also, the ser.# on my pistol is 45015X which I think dates it as 1918. Do you have any records which would indicate shipping date, destination etc.? Thanks.

[OD*]

John, it's not a slot exactly, just milled differently.

1911-1924
http://coolgunsite.com/images/1911/colt6453/coltaddss2.jpg

'24-'45
http://coolgunsite.com/images/1911/1944colt/MVC-868F.JPG

[joninKS]

Thanks. I was worried. Trying to think where I was going to get an authentic piece.

[bgiven]

the ser.# on my pistol is 45015X which I think dates it as 1918. Do you have any records which would indicate shipping date, destination etc.? Thanks.


Your pistol was shipped in either Sept or Oct of 1918. Due to the fact that serial numbers were scattered randomly over several ship dates and destinations, a letter from Colt would be the only way to get the exact information you are looking for.

OD... thanks for taking care of the 'milled relief cut' for me.

BG