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JustinTime
15th February 2007, 13:44
It has been a long time coming but the WWI repro is definately worth the wait.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j176/96vortechSS/M1911002.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j176/96vortechSS/M1911004.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j176/96vortechSS/M1911007.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j176/96vortechSS/M1911008.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j176/96vortechSS/M1911010.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j176/96vortechSS/M1911012.jpg

Enjoy

Jeffrey
15th February 2007, 13:49
She's a beauty.

JustinTime
15th February 2007, 13:51
Thanks jeff.

daveohno
15th February 2007, 17:37
Those are very nice pistols. You did a good job witht he pics! Great close ups!

bigwagon
15th February 2007, 17:50
They are very attractive and appear quite authentic, even down to the rounded shape of the slide lock notch that the early guns had compared to the sharp corner on modern ones. One question I have is about the grips. I've seen some WWI repros that have grips with checkering that extends all the way to the edge, whereas others like this one, have a border around the edge of the grips. All of the original WWI-era double-diamond grips I've seen were borderless. Anyone know if maybe Colt changed suppliers during the WW1 repro production run?

mo' guns
15th February 2007, 18:06
Awesome! That is a very nice Colt! Congratulations! :)

solz56
15th February 2007, 18:13
Very nice Colt, glock. :) Thank you for sharing the pics.

1917-1911M
15th February 2007, 19:22
Glockinload, that's a beauty alright. Congrats on receiving it. I don't know about the original grips but I like the edges as shown on yours. I am beginning the restoration of a 1917 model. I have been looking carefully at the polishing on these in magazines and as posted here. Is that polishing done by wire brush or a belt. Anyone? I assume it is typical of the same procedure for the originals. I wouldn't mind a few more of those nice photos from some more angles especially when you get around to removing the slide. I'd like to see all the corners, front and rear.

My only magazine is all blue as yours is. Were only the military ones half blued? I don't have a loop the bottom of the mag either. Otherwise it is exactly the same. I am also wanting some, if not authentic, at least authentic looking copies of several parts, like the safety with the cross hatch texture.

I wonder now that Colt is making these original models if they would be so nice as to make a few extra parts for those of us needing real Colt replacement pieces. Even better, at a reasonable price. Beautiful pistol, collector or shooter. :) M1911

Joni Lynn
15th February 2007, 19:30
That's beauty in steel.........maybe even artwork.

pa_guns
15th February 2007, 19:34
Hi

Very nice !!!

Bob

Joni Lynn
15th February 2007, 19:36
Does it look at all familiar Bob?

pa_guns
15th February 2007, 20:34
Does it look at all familiar Bob?

Hi

Sort of like this one?

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n68/pa_guns/ww1.jpg

Yup, sure does !!!

Bob

Joni Lynn
15th February 2007, 20:39
Yes perhaps.....................looks familiar.
Now I wonder when/if mine will ever show up at the dealers.

pa_guns
15th February 2007, 20:45
Yes perhaps.....................looks familiar.
Now I wonder when/if mine will ever show up at the dealers.

Hi

I *told* you to grab one back early last fall ... :nono: :nono: :D :D

Bob

Joni Lynn
15th February 2007, 20:47
Sometimes it takes me awhile to decide on a gun.........and sometimes not.
I at least have it on order, along with some others. It'll be interesting to see which gun or guns show up first.

swampthang
15th February 2007, 20:51
Glock , That is a real beauty, very nice.

tombstone
15th February 2007, 20:54
Beautiful pistol and great photos. I'd really like one of these too, but I'd be reluctant to shoot such a treasure, and then it would only sit in the safe....so many Colt's, so little time (and money).
Oh well!

pa_guns
15th February 2007, 21:03
Hi

You *gotta* shoot them. They are wonderfully well made and shoot very well.

Bob

Joni Lynn
15th February 2007, 21:16
Cars are made to be driven, motorcycles made to be riden and guns made to be shot!

pa_guns
15th February 2007, 21:28
Cars are made to be driven, motorcycles made to be riden and guns made to be shot!

Hi

Sure enough.

Bob

Barry in IN
15th February 2007, 21:43
Looks nice. Sure are neat, aren't they?

Wait 'til you shoot it...

pa_guns
15th February 2007, 22:09
Hi

Grab some good 230 gr FMJ and an oil can. Oil it up and shoot it !!

Probably a good idea to clean it afterwards ....

Bob

Joni Lynn
15th February 2007, 22:11
Shoot it being the key ingredient.

pa_guns
15th February 2007, 22:24
Shoot it being the key ingredient.

Hi

Yes, definitely shoot it. The rest is more or less optional.

As some have noted I often forget the last part of my own prescription ....

Bob

Joni Lynn
15th February 2007, 22:28
................and so speaks 'Dr Bob'!

colubrid
15th February 2007, 23:49
How well do these really shoot?

I thought that the ealry colts were all over the place with accuracy. How do these do @ 25 yards?

pa_guns
16th February 2007, 00:00
How well do these really shoot?

I thought that the ealry colts were all over the place with accuracy. How do these do @ 25 yards?

Hi

As far as I know the early Colts were *very* accurate pistols. My WWI is as accurate as any 1911 I own.

Much of the "accuracy problem" with 1911's comes from Ransom Rest testing against revolvers. People like to play with machines ....

A 1911 is simply not designed to do well in this kind of test. You can modify the slide to frame fit. That only helps the way it anchors to the rest. It dramatically improves the Ransom accuracy. It really does very little for the accuracy of the pistol.

It does help people sell gunsmithing services to tighten up slides though :D :D

That said, I don't think I would buy a $3000 pistol that did *not* do well in a Ransom Rest.

Bob

OD*
16th February 2007, 00:12
Justin, beautiful pistol and photographs! http://forum.m1911.org/images/icons/icon16.gif

JustinTime
16th February 2007, 00:13
Those are very nice pistols. You did a good job witht he pics! Great close ups!

Thanks dave, I could take pics of this pistol all day.

OD*
16th February 2007, 00:13
I thought that the ealry colts were all over the place with accuracy.
Another Colt myth. ;)

JustinTime
16th February 2007, 00:15
They are very attractive and appear quite authentic, even down to the rounded shape of the slide lock notch that the early guns had compared to the sharp corner on modern ones. One question I have is about the grips. I've seen some WWI repros that have grips with checkering that extends all the way to the edge, whereas others like this one, have a border around the edge of the grips. All of the original WWI-era double-diamond grips I've seen were borderless. Anyone know if maybe Colt changed suppliers during the WW1 repro production run?

Thanks bigwagon. I don't know about the grips but a quck call to colt should clear it up.

OD*
16th February 2007, 00:16
All of the original WWI-era double-diamond grips I've seen were borderless.
Yes sir, the original M1911 stocks were borderless, Colt apparently had more than one vendor for their stocks, mine came with the correct borderless double diamond.

JustinTime
16th February 2007, 00:16
Awesome! That is a very nice Colt! Congratulations! :)

Thanks Mo.

JustinTime
16th February 2007, 00:18
Very nice Colt, glock. :) Thank you for sharing the pics.

Thanks solz, and your welcome.

OD*
16th February 2007, 00:19
Thanks bigwagon. I don't know about the grips but a quck call to colt should clear it up.
Justin, if you call Colt, they will send you the correct stocks for your pistol, a friend of mine received a new set when he called.

JustinTime
16th February 2007, 00:23
Glockinload, that's a beauty alright. Congrats on receiving it. I don't know about the original grips but I like the edges as shown on yours. I am beginning the restoration of a 1917 model. I have been looking carefully at the polishing on these in magazines and as posted here. Is that polishing done by wire brush or a belt. Anyone? I assume it is typical of the same procedure for the originals. I wouldn't mind a few more of those nice photos from some more angles especially when you get around to removing the slide. I'd like to see all the corners, front and rear.

My only magazine is all blue as yours is. Were only the military ones half blued? I don't have a loop the bottom of the mag either. Otherwise it is exactly the same. I am also wanting some, if not authentic, at least authentic looking copies of several parts, like the safety with the cross hatch texture.

I wonder now that Colt is making these original models if they would be so nice as to make a few extra parts for those of us needing real Colt replacement pieces. Even better, at a reasonable price. Beautiful pistol, collector or shooter. :) M1911

Thanks 1917. It would seem feasible that colt would make replacemenct parts for these pistols since colt does carry a lifetime warranty. I don't see any reason you shouldn't be able to buy those parts.

JustinTime
16th February 2007, 00:26
That's beauty in steel.........maybe even artwork.

Thanks Joni, I hope you get yours soon. I'll have my two tone scg next week. Looks like we have similar taste in guns. I like the ones that say colt on the side.

JustinTime
16th February 2007, 00:28
Hi

Very nice !!!

Bob

Thanks Bob, I like yours too. I don't know if I'm gonna shoot this one. I have plenty of shooters. I'm teetering between shooting and not shooting.

JustinTime
16th February 2007, 00:30
Glock , That is a real beauty, very nice.

Thanks Swamp.

OD*
16th February 2007, 00:30
Were only the military ones half blued?
No sir, Commercial magazines were two-tone until circa 1939.

I don't have a loop the bottom of the mag either.
Colt stopped shipping lanyard loop magazines with their pistols in late 1915.

JustinTime
16th February 2007, 00:31
Beautiful pistol and great photos. I'd really like one of these too, but I'd be reluctant to shoot such a treasure, and then it would only sit in the safe....so many Colt's, so little time (and money).
Oh well!

Thanks tombstone. I know what your mean about the time and money to colt ratio.

JustinTime
16th February 2007, 00:34
Looks nice. Sure are neat, aren't they?

Wait 'til you shoot it...

Thanks Barry, yes they are really neat.

JustinTime
16th February 2007, 00:35
Justin, beautiful pistol and photographs! http://forum.m1911.org/images/icons/icon16.gif

Thanks Dan.

JustinTime
16th February 2007, 00:36
Another Colt myth. ;)

Seems to be a lot of those floating around.

JustinTime
16th February 2007, 00:38
Justin, if you call Colt, they will send you the correct stocks for your pistol, a friend of mine received a new set when he called.

I'm glad this was brought up here. Dan, I'm definately going to be giving them a call tommorrow.

OD*
16th February 2007, 00:44
I'm glad this was brought up here. Dan, I'm definately going to be giving them a call tommorrow.
If you can't get any satisfaction right away, ask to talk to Mark Roberts, he took care of my friend quickly.

JustinTime
16th February 2007, 00:50
If you can't get any satisfaction right away, ask to talk to Mark Roberts, he took care of my friend quickly.

Thanks Dan.

OD*
16th February 2007, 00:57
Thanks Dan.
You're welcome my friend.

JustinTime
16th February 2007, 23:23
1917, you asked for more photos from different angles and you got me thinking. So here is what I came up with. Sorry I haven't disassembled the pistol yet. I did read somewhere that the internals are new parts similar to the new production pistols.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j176/96vortechSS/M1911013.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j176/96vortechSS/M1911014.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j176/96vortechSS/M1911015.jpg

Like I said guys I could photograph this thing all day long.

OD*
17th February 2007, 00:48
Great pics Justin!

colubrid
17th February 2007, 01:05
:butthead: Oh darn that is beautiful.

Now I am hooked.

TattooPaul
17th February 2007, 01:57
I just absolutely love everything about these. The smooth contours, that checkered wide spur hammer, the round top old school slide, the finish, just everthing... They feel so good in the hand too. Nice job on the pics. They still look even better in person but those look real good!

larry starling
17th February 2007, 08:35
Congrats on your WW1 reproduction. I love mine . Colt hit a home run with this one. I wonder what they will make to replace it????? :confused:

OD*
17th February 2007, 12:25
I wonder what they will make to replace it?????
Larry, I would love to see Colt use the M1911 repro as the base gun for a 1918 Commercial Model Government! Shouldn't be too very hard to do, may cost a wee bit more with the additional polishing man-hours required though.

pa_guns
17th February 2007, 12:45
Congrats on your WW1 reproduction. I love mine . Colt hit a home run with this one. I wonder what they will make to replace it????? :confused:

Hi

We have gone around a few times on that one. Each time I come up with slightly different ideas:

1) The *original* 1911 of 1911 (as in wow!!!). Probably never happen.
2) The 1914 version.
3) A commercial from the pre 1924 era. (lots of votes for that one)
4) A pre-WWII national match (as in wow !!!)

The interesting issue with each is how to market it. A few of us would buy one of just about anything. To sell it to a wider audience they need to tag the pistol to something major. A war is a nice thing because it gets name recognition. I suspect that to sell a commercial model you would need to tag it to a famous individual.

Should be fun to see what they do.

Bob

OD*
17th February 2007, 12:50
I like.

Couple questions, why a 1911 and 1914 version?

larry starling
17th February 2007, 12:56
I like.

Couple questions, why a 1911 and 1914 version?
Interesting? My thoughts would be a 1910 trials pistol? Any takers????? :)

OD*
17th February 2007, 12:58
A 1910 would be cool. ;)

There were some M1911s and Government Models assembled in December of 1911, but weren't shipped until 1912.

larry starling
17th February 2007, 13:00
A 1910 would be cool. ;)

There were some M1911s and Government Models assembled in December of 1911, but weren't shipped until 1912.
Yea, I would love to get my hands on one...... ;)

pa_guns
17th February 2007, 13:02
I like.

Couple questions, why a 1911 and 1914 version?

Hi

My guess is that there is no chance at all of them making the original or anything close to it (1910 or 1911). As much as I would *love* either one, they would be tough to build and sell.

The 1914 is probably as close as you can get. It's different enough from the 1918 to still make it worth having. You could tie it to some interesting events and I think it would sell.

Bob

TattooPaul
17th February 2007, 13:03
I saw a write up in the Guns and Ammo annual 1911 publication of that one - if that's the model to which you refer. If they did it I would like the original wide spur hammer like the WW1 if that is what they used in the trial (or whatever was actually used). Interesting model for sure with historical significance...

pa_guns
17th February 2007, 13:11
Hi

I suspect that the same problems that got them to drop the original mag catch would make reproducing it out of the question.

I sure wish that wasn't the case though.

Bob

OD*
17th February 2007, 13:20
Not much difference between the 1911 and 1914, depending on when it was made in 1914.

The biggest obstacle would be the original cut on the recoil spring housing (if using the current repro as a base gun), sights, location of slide markings and hammers etc., would be easy to alter.

pa_guns
17th February 2007, 13:33
Not much difference between the 1911 and 1914, depending on when it was made in 1914.

The biggest obstacle would be the original cut on the recoil spring housing (if using the current repro as a base gun), sights, location of slide markings and hammers etc., would be easy to alter.

Hi

Maybe I've got my dates wrong (again). I thought that 1914 was when they had the "new" mag catch fully worked out. Need to keep Clawson where I can grab it ...

Bob

OD*
17th February 2007, 13:36
Magazine release was changed the first time in 1912, then again in 1912 to the one we have now. ;)

http://coolgunsite.com/pistols/parts/magrel1.jpg
Type 1 - From about SN 1-3189

http://coolgunsite.com/images/mags/magt2.jpg
Type 2 - About SN 3190 to 6500

http://coolgunsite.com/images/mags/magt3.jpg
Type 3 - About SN 6000 to present

TattooPaul
17th February 2007, 13:44
Hi

I suspect that the same problems that got them to drop the original mag catch would make reproducing it out of the question.

I sure wish that wasn't the case though.

Bob

What was the issue with the original mag catch? I do think it'd be a winner just like the WW1.
That particular rendition can be had from USFA but I know Colt could do an amazing job with that edition... It's real nice looking design!

OD*
17th February 2007, 13:49
Paul, the USFAs are beautiful, but neither are accurate representations of the 1910 & 1911.

1910
http://www.coltautos.com/images/1910.gif
USFA
http://www.usfirearms.com/highres/1910L_high2.jpg

1911
http://coltautos.com/images/1911c.gif

USFA
http://www.usfirearms.com/im/1911_1.jpg

TattooPaul
17th February 2007, 14:06
I see what you mean. Thanks for the easy click and compare post. It would be real nice to see a true Colt become available somewhere along the line... They would probably have to include the safety even though it came after the initial test.

pa_guns
17th February 2007, 16:28
What was the issue with the original mag catch?

Hi

If you take a look at OD's pretty pictures the "screwdriver slot" didn't make it in the first version. A less useful version showed up for a while. Finally they went to the version we now have. Taking down the original mag catch was not straightforward.

Bob

TattooPaul
17th February 2007, 16:44
Thanks to you and OD for the info. I was typing my question as the picture post came in and I sent it before I had a chance to see what it was. That first version looks like you'd have to push on the catch, take a drift and depress and slide the pin out. That intermediate looks even worse... Thanks guys!

feathers73
17th February 2007, 17:25
I can't wait to get mine off layaway and SHOOT it. With four Colts on layaway, it's taking awhile.

JustinTime
17th February 2007, 18:02
Great pics Justin!

Thanks Dan, having a decent camera helps. Still takes a while sometimes to get what I want. Or sometimes what I end up with isn't exactly how I pictured it exuse the pun. Lucky for me Colts are photogenic.

JustinTime
17th February 2007, 18:03
:butthead: Oh darn that is beautiful.

Now I am hooked.

Thanks Colubrid, glad to be of some help to you.

JustinTime
17th February 2007, 18:06
Congrats on your WW1 reproduction. I love mine . Colt hit a home run with this one. I wonder what they will make to replace it????? :confused:

Thanks Larry. Yes, it appears they hit it out of the park with this model.

JustinTime
17th February 2007, 18:10
I wonder what they will make to replace it????? :confused:

I hope nothing, because I'm sure my coltitis will undoubtedly flare up again.

pa_guns
17th February 2007, 18:48
Hi

How far along are they in the 4,000 piece production run?

I have heard that they started at serial number 1,000 so the last one off the line should be number 4,999.

Anybody who got one recently want to share the first two digits of their serial number?

Bob

OD*
17th February 2007, 19:06
They're at least at 4200+.

JustinTime
17th February 2007, 19:14
Hi

How far along are they in the 4,000 piece production run?

I have heard that they started at serial number 1,000 so the last one off the line should be number 4,999.

Anybody who got one recently want to share the first two digits of their serial number?

Bob

Sure, mine is a high 3700 serial number.

pa_guns
17th February 2007, 20:09
Hi

The one I got last fall is past the 4,000 mark (408x). The distribution setup may not be perfect, but I would guess they are well into the 4,000's by now.

Bob

biggums
17th February 2007, 20:31
Hello and that is a beauty!

My question is are these new reproduction 1911's fitted tight like all the newer 1911's or is the build fit the same as the old military guns?

Thanks

Joni Lynn
17th February 2007, 20:33
They appear to be fit quite well. I was impressed with the fit and finish.

OD*
17th February 2007, 22:42
the old military guns?
The old military guns weren't built loose, they weren't as tight a Baers though. ;)

pa_guns
17th February 2007, 22:47
Hello and that is a beauty!

My question is are these new reproduction 1911's fitted tight like all the newer 1911's or is the build fit the same as the old military guns?

Thanks

Hi

They are hand fit tight like the old WWI military guns.

The "loose fit military" stuff comes from a lot of arsenal rebuilds and some production modifications made in the WWII era.

Bob

swampthang
17th February 2007, 23:10
37XX on the one I got in sept.

pa_guns
17th February 2007, 23:24
Hi

Has anybody seen one past the 4300 mark yet?

Bob

JustinTime
18th February 2007, 00:40
The old military guns weren't built loose, they weren't as tight a Baers though. ;)

Another rumor bites the dust.

Joni Lynn
18th February 2007, 09:45
Wasn't that a song by Queen?

OD*
18th February 2007, 10:42
Wasn't that a song by Queen?
And another one gone, and another one gone
Another one bites the dust.........

Joni Lynn
18th February 2007, 10:48
Somehow I can't envision that being sung by OD..............however Queen is one of my favorite groups. (I guess that should be 'was')

OD*
18th February 2007, 10:52
Somehow I can't envision that being sung by OD..............
You're lucky there Joni, it's not a pretty sight and the sound makes small animals whimper. ;)

Joni Lynn
18th February 2007, 10:54
............and shed uncontrollably.

OD*
18th February 2007, 10:56
Ah, you've seen the aftermath. ;)

Joni Lynn
18th February 2007, 10:58
The air is thick with flying fur and this horrible sound.............the animals are stampeding..........cats...............dogs.................living together............it's not natural!

pa_guns
18th February 2007, 11:02
The air is thick with flying fur and this horrible sound.............the animals are stampeding..........cats...............dogs.................living together............it's not natural!

Hi

Maybe that's the problem with the Neuf. To much singing ....

Bob

Joni Lynn
18th February 2007, 11:18
............ya think???? ;)

browningwgm
18th February 2007, 13:59
Hi

Has anybody seen one past the 4300 mark yet?

Bob

Gunbroker Auction (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=66131621)

pa_guns
18th February 2007, 14:34
Gunbroker Auction (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=66131621)

Hi

So if that's right off the line they are maybe 600 away from end of the run. If they run 50 to 100 a month that would say summer to end of the year until switch over to something else.

And I could have this one for only $0.01 ... time to bid. :D :D

Bob

JustinTime
18th February 2007, 16:14
You're lucky there Joni, it's not a pretty sight and the sound makes small animals whimper. ;)

You guys crack me up. :lm:

swampthang
18th February 2007, 16:30
And I could have this one for only $0.01 ... time to bid. :D :D

Bob

I will stick in my .02 $ and double the offer

pa_guns
18th February 2007, 16:34
I will stick in my .02 $ and double the offer

Hi

And then we get into an ego race and up to $1832.30 we go. :D :D :D

Bob

daveohno
18th February 2007, 17:48
I thought Freddy Mercury was one of OD's favorite musicians........

colubrid
18th February 2007, 19:04
Correct me if I am wrong here but do the repros come in two different finishes? Maybe its my computer screen but i seem to see deep polished black version and then I see rougher looking antique finishes. Am I seeing this right? If so is one priced higher than the other??

pa_guns
18th February 2007, 19:12
Correct me if I am wrong here but do the repros come in two different finishes? Maybe its my computer screen but i seem to see deep polished black version and then I see rougher looking antique finishes. Am I seeing this right? If so is one priced higher than the other??

Hi

As far as I know all the repo's have the same deep blue / black "Carbona" blue on them. I suspect that you are seeing the result of camera's having a tough time with this kind of thing.

Bob

colubrid
18th February 2007, 19:17
okay thanks Bob. I am in the market for one and wanted to be sure.

Mick_In_Texas
18th February 2007, 19:31
It has been a long time coming but the WWI repro is definately worth the wait.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j176/96vortechSS/M1911002.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j176/96vortechSS/M1911004.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j176/96vortechSS/M1911007.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j176/96vortechSS/M1911008.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j176/96vortechSS/M1911010.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j176/96vortechSS/M1911012.jpg

Enjoy

I pant for a Colt's WWI Repro Model. I so wish I could snag one. I would love to carry a modern 1911. They are Carbonia Blue, in address to some of the later posters here. Beautiful finish. I reckon I'll never hold one. I love my USGI Colt's 1911 from 1918; and I would so love to have a WWI Repro to carry, a good one.

That said, sir, I congratulate you and share your joy and happiness on acquiring this BEAUTY!!! ENJOY her, sir. Cherish her, but shoot her, carry her, use her. Clean her, and lube her. And just be glad, sir. She is a beauty. Happy for you, glock!!! Hee hee...

Mick

JustinTime
19th February 2007, 00:05
I pant for a Colt's WWI Repro Model. I so wish I could snag one. I would love to carry a modern 1911. They are Carbonia Blue, in address to some of the later posters here. Beautiful finish. I reckon I'll never hold one. I love my USGI Colt's 1911 from 1918; and I would so love to have a WWI Repro to carry, a good one.

That said, sir, I congratulate you and share your joy and happiness on acquiring this BEAUTY!!! ENJOY her, sir. Cherish her, but shoot her, carry her, use her. Clean her, and lube her. And just be glad, sir. She is a beauty. Happy for you, glock!!! Hee hee...

Mick

Thanks Mick, in turn I'd like to have an original 1918 model but unfortunately never will.

OD*
19th February 2007, 00:22
colubrid,

Colt's WWI replicas are finished by Ron's Gun Shop for them, in one finish.
http://www.ronsgunshop.com/coltwwrepro.html

colubrid
19th February 2007, 01:11
Okay great.

WOW!.. just checked out the link. Thanks!

OD*
19th February 2007, 01:16
Your welcome amigo. ;)

TattooPaul
19th February 2007, 09:46
Awesome link OD. Thanks!

pa_guns
19th February 2007, 09:54
Hi

The pistol in the link brings up an interesting question.

As far as I can see with my poor old eyes it's serial number 1301. I have no idea if it's the first pistol they did or not, but it may be.

If Colt started at serial number 1301 then they are a bit further from the end of the batch than I thought.

Bob

TattooPaul
19th February 2007, 10:25
Interesting thought!

I also read in that link about people noting the flaking nature of their finish. I currently have my MSH back to Colt as the finish inexplicably started flaking significantly. I have always handled it with exceptional care and in my contact with Mark Roberts asked if any of my cleaning regimen could have been an issue. He had no issue with what I have used. I wonder if that part didn't get heated or treated quite right. The rest of the parts are just gorgeous and holding up quite well. They are absolutely beautiful and Ron's should get proper thanks as well as Colt. That finish is unbelievable. Much to Colt's credit, Mark asked me to send it to him and he'd send me a new one. No questions. Thank-you Mark! I truly don't think anything I did caused it but I was willing to pay as I have no way to prove this. He accepted my word and is standing by the product. Yet another reason to hold Colt in the highest esteem.
Here's a picture:

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o138/TattooPaulie/WW1chipping.jpg

pa_guns
19th February 2007, 10:32
Hi

Some metal alloy / finish combinations are not made for each other. I suspect we have forgotten a lot about what works with Carbona Blue over the last 50 or 100 years ...

Bob

OD*
19th February 2007, 10:45
Mark and Kathy both have stated they started at 1000.

pa_guns
19th February 2007, 11:12
Mark and Kathy both have stated they started at 1000.

Hi

Well they certainly should know !!

Bob

OD*
19th February 2007, 11:31
I would think. ;)

I wouldn't be upset if they had started at 1301, I would have the 162nd one made then. :)

Mick_In_Texas
19th February 2007, 23:19
Thanks Mick, in turn I'd like to have an original 1918 model but unfortunately never will.

Sir, I supremely lucked out. I really did. Once I got interested in JMB's 1911 platform, and all the previous and consequent modifications, the USGI 1911 by Colt's was my ultimate dream. While I had to sacrifice financially for First Lady, I got her. She is in really great condition. Sir, while they are getting harder to come by, there are many here who have USGI 1911s, as well as USGI 1911A1s. Please, sir, do not give up hope. TattooPaul, also desires one; you are NOT without hope! They are around. Caveat emptore, "let the buyer beware", but they are out there.

Few of my dreams, so far, have come true. First Lady is one which did. I stumbled onto her, lots of "luck" there in my acquisition. I also value my other firearms. But, she is special, as you know and can imagine. The "originals" are not unavailable, to those who cherish them and desire them. I NEVER expected to have one. Yet, somehow, I have one. I am supremely thankful; and yet, I still find hope for you folks who have not yet been able to get one.

I went in a bidding war for an O1911 WWI Repro two nights ago. I did not get her. I will NEVER carry First Lady, or shoot her much. I crave, crave to be able to carry a 1911. But, so far, this is not to be, as I cannot get the Repro Model. That said, sir, do not give up your dream. That said, sir, the 1911 platform is wonderful to me, in the .45 ACP caliber, even though I love my .38 Super Colt's. You must be vigilant, and open to auctions, estate sales, all that; but watch your back, sir. I KNOW your feelings, sir. It is NOT an unattainable dream. Two years ago, I would NOT have believed that among all my other firearms, I would have a 1918 USGI 1911 Colt. I have her. You are not yet without hope, sir. I mean that.

Hang in there. Glad to have you as an afficiando of the 1911 platform. These are good folks, here. They share our respect, our love of the platform and the design. You and yours take care and be safe.
Mick

JustinTime
20th February 2007, 00:16
Awesome link OD. Thanks!

I would expect nothing else from Mr. OD*.

TattooPaul
20th February 2007, 02:17
I would expect nothing else from Mr. OD*.
++1!!! ...

FiringPinStop
20th February 2007, 03:04
I've seen one over 4300...so you do the math...


FPS

deadmarsh
20th February 2007, 03:07
I've seen one over 4300...so you do the math...


He's right -- mine is numbered 4343WMK


Dead

JustinTime
20th February 2007, 04:33
I've seen one over 4300...so you do the math...


FPS

I don't have that many fingers and toes so I guess I'm outta luck.

pa_guns
20th February 2007, 08:54
Hi

As mentioned eariler 408x came off the line in late August. Three hundred in five or six months comes out to 50 to 60 a month.

Bob

OD*
20th February 2007, 10:59
He's right -- mine is numbered 4343WMK


Dead
You buddies with FiringPinStop?

deadmarsh
20th February 2007, 17:57
Yea, Od...Firing Pin is a customer at the gunshop where I work...just bought him a Rem Rand off the net, the one he posted after I sent him the photos. Nice fella, and I blame all of you for his Coltitis...he's got me bidding on several more...


Dead

OD*
20th February 2007, 18:23
Hey dead, where's your shop at?

Phil
20th February 2007, 18:48
It has been a long time coming but the WWI repro is definately worth the wait.EnjoyBEEE YOOO TEEE FULLL :D

Mick_In_Texas
20th February 2007, 20:45
BEEE YOOO TEEE FULLL :D

I know from talking to pa and OD* here and some others, that the WWI Repro model is currently a custom shop beauty, not what would be called regular production.

Long shot: Could y'all possibly, by any stretch of the imagination, make the WWI 1911 Repro, part of your regular line-up??? Out of the 6 1911 platforms I have currently, 3 are Colt's... although the USGI 1911 govt property from 1918 doesn't count, I reckon, but still a majority. My O1991 has a beautiful blued finish, so far; I wouldn't even mind if the "production" WWI Repros had the blued, as my 1918 is black Army and it's much like bluing. I hear (here, other threads) the Carbona Blue is very beautiful... but it's the 1911-no-A1 that I crave and cherish and wish I could carry, as I will NEVER subject First Lady to daily carry, she's too valuable, even though she's still a shooter.

I got WAY out on a limb last night, way past my comfort point, bidding on an O1911 at auction... didn't meet the seller's reserve, which must've been way over list. My three dealers can't get one. I so wish Colt's Patent Firearms Manufacturing Company, Hartford, Connecticut, would consider making the WWI Repro as a permanent part of the line, Sir. I wouldn't care if I had one with a S/N of 1000000, as long as it was a functional, original 1911 configuration, even blued or ss (I'd prefer blued or Carbona Blue, but, my 38 Super Govt Model is beautiful in ss)...

I think y'all could sell them. I really do. I will refrain from begging, but, sir, just a thought. If I could get one for $1000 or less, NIB, I'd snag her. But, I cannot. I've tried.

Beautiful pistol. I SO love the look and design and feel of my original 1911, First Lady. I so want to carry her greatgrandaughter on my hip... Not the cousin, the -A1.

Y'all take care and be safe.
Mick

Joni Lynn
20th February 2007, 21:06
They can be had still. This site has them shown on the web site. I'm not sure they have one in stock.
http://www.ajcsportshop.com/wwone1911.html

bradg
20th February 2007, 21:09
What a great looking pistol. I gotta get one

JustinTime
20th February 2007, 21:14
BEEE YOOO TEEE FULLL :D

Thanks Phil

daveohno
20th February 2007, 21:15
I think y'all could sell them. I really do. I will refrain from begging, but, sir, just a thought. If I could get one for $1000 or less, NIB, I'd snag her. But, I cannot. I've tried.

Mick
Well Mick, you're in luck (Dave says, doing his best BHB imitation) I just happen to know where they have one and I do believe you can out your name on it! http://forums.snapstream.com/vb/images/smilies/banana.gif

http://www.ajcsportshop.com/wwone1911.html

JustinTime
20th February 2007, 21:16
What a great looking pistol. I gotta get one

Thanks Brad

Mick_In_Texas
20th February 2007, 21:16
They can be had still. This site has them shown on the web site. I'm not sure they have one in stock.
http://www.ajcsportshop.com/wwone1911.html

I have an interview for my boss's job tomorrow morning, but, you can bet your bottom dollar that I'll be checking with these folks. When I got my O1991, I said, "That's it!" But in this possible case, it was NOT "it". I will definitely let y'all know here!

Thank you. Thank you so much. You and yours take care and be safe.
Mick

Mick_In_Texas
20th February 2007, 21:20
Well Mick, you're in luck (Dave says, doing his best BHB imitation) I just happen to know where they have one and I do believe you can out your name on it! http://forums.snapstream.com/vb/images/smilies/banana.gif

http://www.ajcsportshop.com/wwone1911.html

Joni Lynn sent me the same link. I can do it in 7 days for the $899 + shipping/FFL transfer fee. These things are beautiful. Still wish Mark and his folks would make them "production/regular lineup", though! Even if I DO manage to get one in the near future. Got a double shoulder holster rig from Animal... you know... gotta have a matched set, for a double rig... LOL...

Thank you, dave, Joni Lynn. They are beautiful. Thank you.

Mick

JustinTime
20th February 2007, 21:24
Mick, AJC Sports is in Texas so you'd have to pay sales tax. I'm not sure what part of Tejas your in but you might be able to drive there an and pick her up directly. Also do a search for one on gunsamerica. I bought mine from a company there called the Exchange. They were pleasant to deal with and I got it for $895 shipped to my ffl. I'd be careful of gunsamerica though in general as there is no feed back data readily available there. (at least that I've been able to find.) The above mentioned company though is a reputable one. I bought the SCG from them as well.

daveohno
20th February 2007, 21:27
I just wanted to make sure you could get one at the still reasonable price that is available now. Once they're all sold, who knows what the price will be. Here's a pic of mine, not nearly as good a photograph as Steve's able to show us, but just good enough to get you fiending for a new pistola.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/daveohno/DSCN0306WW1.jpg

Mick_In_Texas
20th February 2007, 21:33
What a great looking pistol. I gotta get one

Sir, to me, there is nothing like the orginal 1911 pistol. I have 5 -A1s, gave my dad another, and had one other that I sold... but I also have a USGI original, and I LOVE it. It is a dream come true. The thing works, without all the -A1 modifications (lowered ejection port, arched MSH, short trigger, no halfmoon cutouts on the frame behind the trigger). Heck, I'd like to have that reproduction 1910 commercial model, by U.S. Firearms Mfg. Co.... but, it ain't a Colt's. I love my Springers and my RIA, as well as my Taurus and my Rugers, but... a 1911, modern, from Colt's... my two modern Colt's 1911A1s have been excellent! First Lady was, and is, a military gun, and she's excellent. But I have heard many good things about the Colt's WWI Repro Model, the O1911. I have a really wonderful FFL here, he's also a 1911-platform afficiando, and he loves everything that's come through his shop for me. He'd love the O1911 as well.

You sir take care and be safe, and yes, this one is special, in a way... they're very unique. Other mfgrs should think about this as well. But, there's something about that Rampart Colt, on the slide, you know? Hunter and several others can tell you all about this, way better than I can.

Mick

Mick_In_Texas
20th February 2007, 21:47
Mick, AJC Sports is in Texas so you'd have to pay sales tax. I'm not sure what part of Tejas your in but you might be able to drive there an and pick her up directly. Also do a search for one on gunsamerica. I bought mine from a company there called the Exchange. They were pleasant to deal with and I got it for $895 shipped to my ffl. I'd be careful of gunsamerica though in general as there is no feed back data readily available there. (at least that I've been able to find.) The above mentioned company though is a reputable one. I bought the SCG from them as well.

I think I'm going to stick with them. I've also had some experience with GunsAmerica... I'll check on the Exchange, although my FFL is pretty good with me, he's more into bows than guns, now, but still a buddy and a 1911 afficiando. I also thank you for this lead, sir! You've got a beauty there.

Hee hee, your nick... had a guy at work today, who's looking at a Glock 17... Told him (as most folks at work KNOW) it's not my favored brand, platform, or caliber, but, it's a good gun. He's young, he likes that "9mm/Glock aura"... just told him to beware the safety mechanism on that ol' Glock. Seems there's some respect for my opinions growing at work, although, they know I'm a .45 ACP/1911/A1 kinda guy. But, that is my personal preference. He's a good kid. Maybe eventually I'll "convert" him, after he gets a little experience. He was a little leery of--and didn't understand--polymer frames, but, told him I'm not going to knock Glocks or SigSauers, although I wouldn't buy one. He appreciated it, getting a good price on the 17; but, we had a little "class'" on stopping power of 9mm vs. .45ACP, bullet speed inside apartments, and magazine capacities in civilian defensive situations. He knows I've earned and maintained my priviledge to carry in public concealed in Texas. I think we may have him and his wife as law-abiding firearms supporters in the near future. He's a good guy. Solid. We went over some safety/responsibility issues, as well, briefly, succinctly.

GOOD LUCK on yours, too, sir. I'm hoping... hoping... hoping... we'll see. If I get one, I'm so sure you all will have to endure my photos!!!

Mick

Mick_In_Texas
20th February 2007, 21:52
I just wanted to make sure you could get one at the still reasonable price that is available now. Once they're all sold, who knows what the price will be. Here's a pic of mine, not nearly as good a photograph as Steve's able to show us, but just good enough to get you fiending for a new pistola.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/daveohno/DSCN0306WW1.jpg

I know you sure enjoy yours. That's a good pic of her... oh, man, I am FIENDING right now, for sure!!! I'll be on the phone to them tomorrow, that is for SURE. This one, I will make an exception for: I wasn't going to get anymore pistols for a while, gotta enjoy the ones I have. But as you say, sir dave... if they (Colt's) don't make them "regular lineup", they're going to get... very expensive. I love this one. The O1911. "Fiending" is a good word, along with panting and drooling, as I have been for several months... LoL...

YOU and yours take care and be safe.
Mick

OD*
20th February 2007, 23:19
Lookin' good Dave!

JustinTime
20th February 2007, 23:42
Lookin' good Dave!

I wish I could see. These stupid work computers won't post the pics. I have to wait til I get home. :mad:

OD*
20th February 2007, 23:45
It's a beauty Justin (sorry, just had to rub it in a little). ;)

Hey, let me know when you get your stocks from Mark, if you would sir.

JustinTime
20th February 2007, 23:48
It's a beauty Justin (sorry, just had to rub it in a little). ;)

Hey, let me know when you get your stocks from Mark, if you would sir.

Thanks a lot. You'll be the first to know sir.

OD*
20th February 2007, 23:51
Good deal. ;)

TattooPaul
21st February 2007, 01:20
Do it!!! You'll not be disppointed! I can't keep my eye's off that Carbonia Blue that Ron's put on it. I was really surprised to find out from OD's link to their website that they are a mere 60 miles north of my home here in Wisconsin! Guess we do more than beer, cheese, and brats!
Their site has some very well done photo's of the WW1 Repro - not to mention the custom finishes they do.

JustinTime
21st February 2007, 02:18
Guess we do more than beer, cheese, and brats!

Did I hear beer & brats?

TattooPaul
21st February 2007, 02:20
You bet! We do them both right well 'round these parts!!!

daveohno
21st February 2007, 02:34
It's all the folks of German descent up there in Wisconsin, Beer und sausages! Veee vill eat now! Yah! I belong to a German Club and dinner is ALWAYS part of the meeting. Along with a beer, of course!

TattooPaul
21st February 2007, 02:42
Got a bunch of German in me from my mother's side... Bier und das wursten, yah! Das ist gut...

JustinTime
21st February 2007, 05:10
Got a bunch of German in me from my mother's side... Bier und das wursten, yah! Das ist gut...

Cool, my wife has quite a bit of german in her as well. I love German food. I got a half of a case left of Spaten Optimator.

TattooPaul
21st February 2007, 11:06
My father was Armenian with parents from the old country, what a combination...

BTW, have you fired your Repro yet, Glock, or are you keeping her NIB?

JustinTime
21st February 2007, 16:58
My father was Armenian with parents from the old country, what a combination...

BTW, have you fired your Repro yet, Glock, or are you keeping her NIB?

NIB, for now. I can alway shoot her. I really want to see how hight the price jumps once they're hard to find. Not that I'd sell her anyway. I'm also going to wait and see if there will be a priced difference between the shot ones and the NIB ones later on. I'm not sure there will be since it is a reproduction and not an authentic one. She's so pretty I can't bring myself to shoot her right now.

Mick_In_Texas
21st February 2007, 20:56
NIB, for now. I can alway shoot her. I really want to see how hight the price jumps once they're hard to find. Not that I'd sell her anyway. I'm also going to wait and see if there will be a priced difference between the shot ones and the NIB ones later on. I'm not sure there will be since it is a reproduction and not an authentic one. She's so pretty I can't bring myself to shoot her right now.

...talked to AJC Sports today. We'll see. Depends on how quickly the loan money I applied for last week comes in. Wasn't what I was going to use it for, but, as I said... to get an O1911... good enough.

I know how you feel, glockinload. I have an O1991 I WANT to shoot, but I may have broken or chipped a bone in my right hand; no shooting for this ol' boy until we resolve this issue. I manage the computers at work and home, but, barely. I've got a brace on it temporarily; but, dang sure no shooting.

If I get one, I sure won't sell her anymore than my ORIGINAL 1911. But, like glockin, I get curious about these things (I'm real easily entertained, sound mind, just not much of one I reckon! Hah!)... generally, even a modern gun, I think tends to be more valuable at resale if it is NIB in the sense it hasn't been fired. I bought my 38 Super Government Model at auction; it had not been fired (by seller's claim and examination on tear-down), but it was an older model, I learned looking for the warranty card for my O1991, which I purchased from my dealer in Virginia: Colt's woman said they quit putting warranty cards in new pistols in 1998! So, there you go... the gun was NIB but was nearly 10 years old, evidently.

Generally, I want all my guns to shoot. Even First Lady, my USGI 1911: the fact that she won't be though, that much, coincides with glockin's new WWI Repro. Same effect, different reasons. I get it. My own WWI Repro, though, I can guarantee if it's reliable and functional, will become a CARRY gun, not just a shooting iron... I still prefer ss for leather and synthetic holsters, especially concealed; but my Parked RIA and my GI45 in ArmoryKote have rode a few miles on my hip, concealed and open. Been a few rounds through them, too, to earn that place on my hip...

Y'all take care and be safe.
Mick

daveohno
21st February 2007, 21:34
I hope your money gets to you in time to get your own WW1 repro, Mick. They are such beauties, mine is reliable AND very accurate, even with 51 year old eyes and those itty bitty sites they put on the pistol. I probably won't ever carry mine, I have Colt revolvers I carry and several Colt 1911's that are sometimes carry pistols.

Mick_In_Texas
21st February 2007, 22:09
I hope your money gets to you in time to get your own WW1 repro, Mick. They are such beauties, mine is reliable AND very accurate, even with 51 year old eyes and those itty bitty sites they put on the pistol. I probably won't ever carry mine, I have Colt revolvers I carry and several Colt 1911's that are sometimes carry pistols.

I know you love yours. I'm not going to twist up my hopes too much, but the gentleman at AJC didn't seem concerned with my delay prior to ordering.

My eyes are a year older'n' yours, one of 'em's pretty near-sighted, and occasionally the military spec sights are a challenge; but, the 1911 platform is SUCH a good "point and shoot" pistol, as it was designed to be... that I do about as well shooting either three-dots or mil specs defensively. That said, dave, I DO SO love the three-dot combats on the 38 Super Model and the 1991 Model... I don't know what Colt's does, I think their front sight dot is bigger than the rear dots, subtle, but, they're way better than my Rugers, my Taurus, or my Springer Mil-Spec. Subtle yes, physically, but, practice, WAY better. Since I'm so blessed to have a functional original 1911, though, the priviledge and blessing of being able to carry a modern Repro of it would be wonderful... although, reliable as all my pistols are, I reckon my primary carry gun's still going to be that ol' Springer ss Mil-Spec. Still, she gets to alternate OCCASIONALLY. I know my 38 Super's rode one trip around the Brazos Valley backroads with me, my RIA's got some mileage; so does my GI45. First Lady has, and will never have, ANY mileage in a holster. She served her time in one in 1918-1919.

If I get one, though... I am hearing SO much about that Carbona Blue custom finish on them... I, um, might change my hard-headed mind. I haven't had any trouble with blues--my PT92AF, or my GP100--in leather carry; although they don't get much carry time. The well-conditioned Park on my RIA has held up, it's prob had the second-most carry time next to my Mil-Spec SA in ss, even in the Springer XD Yaqui plastic, and it was unmarred after 5 day's worth. I suspect my O1991 will see a bit, too. Maybe secondary. Roadtime only, I like the 38 Super. Going to my dad's, since one will come out of the holster and lie beside my bed there, I prefer a .45 cal. Slower, bigger, not as third-party dangerous inside a residence. My dad likes his .22LR Ruger revolver as his bed gun, but, dang, he'd unleash a needle going close to 2200 FPS inside his house, if he had to use it! I'd rather unleash an almost 1/2" slug moving about 940 FPS inside a house, if I HAD to.

Like you, sir, I SO LOVE the O1911. It is, in every way, a beauty; and if I get one, I really will stop for a while. I had planned to stop with the O1991. But y'all know I PANT for that WWI Repro. Roll-mark roughness or not. Having an original, it's just the ultimate to have a modern repro. That you can actually use a little. I am so happy that you got yours, sir. Even if I NEVER have one, the joy and the happiness from these folks here, just warms my heart, whether I can ever share it first hand or not! You, glockin, all... I'm SO happy for you folks! This a beauty among many in the Colt's PT FA line. I so wish Mark would consider adding a blued version, to Colt's regular line. I KNOW it's a custom shop number, especially with the Carbona Blue finish. Shoot, though, I'd take one in blued. Or ss.

I love you guys and gals here. Y'all are great, great folks, and to share this interest, this hobby, this avocation with y'all... I have to say, getting into the 1911 platform, saved me in some other ways the past couple of years.

Definitely, if I get my own WWI Repro, I will abuse you folks with pictures and reports. Forewarned is forearmed, but, not holding my breath. We'll see. Still, I share you folks's enjoyment in YOUR WWIs.

Mick

OD*
21st February 2007, 23:15
Mick, call Colt back and ask them when the serial number dates your Super .38 (don't mention the warranty card). The card could have gotten in the box any number of ways, Colt was not making the New Roll Marked 01991 in 1998.

clughog
21st February 2007, 23:40
It has been a long time coming but the WWI repro is definately worth the wait.

Justin, that is one super nice pistol! And great photography as well. Wow! I saw a couple at the gun show this past weekend and they sure are pretty. Congratulations!

JustinTime
22nd February 2007, 00:23
Justin, that is one super nice pistol! And great photography as well. Wow! I saw a couple at the gun show this past weekend and they sure are pretty. Congratulations!

Thanks Gale.

JTWard01
24th February 2007, 23:19
Any idea what the typical going price for the WW1 repros is? Not the asking prices, but what they're actually selling for. I got one NIB yesterday for $750 plus shipping and fees.

pa_guns
24th February 2007, 23:32
Any idea what the typical going price for the WW1 repros is? Not the asking prices, but what they're actually selling for. I got one NIB yesterday for $750 plus shipping and fees.

Hi

My understanding is that's about at to $50 below distributor cost.

Typically they go for $850 or so.

Bob

JTWard01
25th February 2007, 00:51
Hi

My understanding is that's about $50 below distributor cost.

Typically they go for $850 or so.

Bob


Thanks. I didn't get quite as good a deal as I thought, then. I checked the auctions and saw several with "buy it now" prices of $1,000 plus. Of course, no one was bidding on them, either. Oh well, at $50 off distributor cost I guess I didn't get hurt.

pa_guns
25th February 2007, 01:07
Hi

$750 is about as low as anybody seems to get them for.

I would take a very close look at your pistol when it gets to you ....

Bob

TattooPaul
25th February 2007, 01:37
That's a darn good price for NIB considering they go for $890 - $945 dollars at most dealers and a lot individuals (and some dealers) are asking $1000 - $1200 which I find amusing as the $900 NIBs are still to be had. You got a steal if it truly NIB - Congrats! They sure do look AWESOME in person don't they?

cliff731
25th February 2007, 02:34
I know you love yours. I'm not going to twist up my hopes too much, but the gentleman at AJC didn't seem concerned with my delay prior to ordering.

(edit)

If I get one, though... I am hearing SO much about that Carbona Blue custom finish on them... I, um, might change my hard-headed mind. I haven't had any trouble with blues--

(edit)

Shoot, though, I'd take one in blued. Or ss.


Mick

Hey Mick, if your dealer is unable to obtain one of those WWI "repro" M1911's for any reason, don't forget to give Colt's Series 70 "reissue" in blued or stainless a serious consideration.

JTWard01
25th February 2007, 02:50
Hi

$750 is about as low as anybody seems to get them for.

I would take a very close look at your pistol when it gets to you ....

Bob

I already have it. We did the deal on Thursday and the gun was delivered Friday. Since we are both in Florida no FFLs or waiting periods were involved.

Yes, it was previously owned, but the guy says the slide was never even racked and on close inspection I have no reason to doubt him. All papers and accessories are there, and the boxes, even the white shipping box, are immaculate.

Old habits die hard, and I was forced to move the slide just enough to make sure the chamber was empty before I cocked the hammer and dropped it one time. Got a little cloud of gun oil from around the hammer when it hit the firing pin, so I really don't think it's been used at all.

I was really lucky. I spotted his ad about five minutes after he posted it on the Florida Shooters Network. I called him, the deal was done and the next day I had the gun. He even sent it on approval, meaning I didn't pay for it until after it arrived and I'd checked it over real well.

JustinTime
25th February 2007, 02:58
I already have it. We did the deal on Thursday and the gun was delivered Friday. Since we are both in Florida no FFLs or waiting periods were involved.

Yes, it was previously owned, but the guy says the slide was never even racked and on close inspection I have no reason to doubt him. All papers and accessories are there, and the boxes, even the white shipping box, are immaculate.

Old habits die hard, and I was forced to move the slide just enough to make sure the chamber was empty before I cocked the hammer and dropped it one time. Got a little cloud of gun oil from around the hammer when it hit the firing pin, so I really don't think it's been used at all.

I was really lucky. I spotted his ad about five minutes after he posted it on the Florida Shooters Network. I called him, the deal was done and the next day I had the gun. He even sent it on approval, meaning I didn't pay for it until after it arrived and I'd checked it over real well.

Congrats on your purchase.

pa_guns
25th February 2007, 09:03
Hi

Ok, on a used pistol that's a reasonable price. It's still a lot better deal than you would have gotten from a dealer.

Bob

OD*
25th February 2007, 10:06
That's a very good price for a LNIB WWI, John. http://forum.m1911.org/images/icons/icon14.gif

Barry in IN
25th February 2007, 10:57
That sounds really good. The best I've heard, in fact.
Mine was just a little more, and was used/like new.

If I saw a new one for $750, I would probably be walking out the door with my second WWI.

OD*
25th February 2007, 11:10
That sounds really good. The best I've heard, in fact.
Mine was just a little more, and was used/like new.

If I saw a new one for $750, I would probably be walking out the door with my second WWI.
Amen......

Barry in IN
25th February 2007, 11:17
Now, I read the posts in between and see that it wasn't NEW new.
Still, it's a pretty good deal. My comment about walking out with another one if I saw it at that price still stands!

JTWard01
25th February 2007, 13:58
Anybody else notice that Colt came out with the WW1 replica just about the time that Caspian started offering 1911 style frames and slides? It would make sense for the companies to work together. Caspian would have a ready market for at least 4,000 slide and frame combinations, plus what they'll sell to custom builders in the future. And Colt wouldn't have to tool up for a fairly small production run. We already know Colt farmed out the finishing operation. Why not buy forgings, or even completely machined parts, from someone else? Kinda makes a person wonder. Not that I'd be upset. Caspian has a superb reputation for making some of the best slides and frames in the business.

Heck, I'm still trying to get over discovering that Martin doesn't make their own guitar tops.

Joni Lynn
25th February 2007, 14:17
I didn't know Caspian offered forged frames.

OD*
25th February 2007, 14:25
They did at one time, Joni, I don't know if they do now?
I thought I had read a comment by Gary Smith sometime back they were dropping the forged receivers.

clughog
25th February 2007, 15:41
Last thing I saw was in the Caspian Arms catalog on the FAQ page:

Q: Why do you prefer to machine your frames from cast blanks?

A: We are pledged to provide you with the strongest part at the best price. By using pre-heat treated blanks supplied by Ruger's Pine Tree Casting Division, we can offer a "forever" guarantee on our frames against cracking.

I've sure been pleased with my Caspian frames!

JTWard01
25th February 2007, 16:23
I was just speculating. I may be way off. Then again, the WW1 was announced several years ago. Caspian could have delivered Colt's entire order before dropping forged frames, if indeed they did.

OD*
25th February 2007, 19:25
Then again, the WW1 was announced several years ago. Caspian could have delivered Colt's entire order before dropping forged frames, if indeed they did.
Could be, maybe? Colt did offer a "1911" frame on their WWI Commemoratives back in 1967-68, I'm certain those weren't Caspian's. ;)
Belleau Wood
Chateau Therry
Meuse Argonne
Battle of the Marne

Mick_In_Texas
25th February 2007, 19:59
Hey Mick, if your dealer is unable to obtain one of those WWI "repro" M1911's for any reason, don't forget to give Colt's Series 70 "reissue" in blued or stainless a serious consideration.

I will keep the Series 70 in mind; looked at them... while my heart is set on a modern "M1911", due to owning an original... they're all good. I DO love the lack of the firing pin block in the slide, as well (Colt's Series 70 vs. Series 80). But, I'm still in the running for the NIB WWI Repro. I'll sure bother you fine folks here with photos and an announcement if I get one! LoL...

But, thanks for this. I have seen those on the Colt's website, and panted over them. You and yours take care and be safe, sir.

Mick

Mick_In_Texas
1st March 2007, 23:13
...$899, NIB, went up from last week's $882. Seems they're getting rare. I've seen some NIB at auction for well over $1200. This from AJC Sports in Clute, Tx, thanks to you folks here; we don't have any Colt's dealers in the Brazos Valley that had one. I looked. I tried. My Va dealer couldn't get one. I bit the bullet, so to speak. I hope it's a good one. Our friend Joni Lynn here is getting one, as well. They're sure fine, I sure didn't need another pistol, but....... there you go. Take it while you can get it, I guess.

This will be it for a while. I know, I know, but gotta be. I'm like an arsenal, the past couple of years, got 1911 magazines and pistols all over the place, but HEY, I'm a law-abiding citizen, it's OKAY. I reckon it's all GOOD.

YOU folks helped me find one, as they get rarer and rarer and draw incredible prices at auction (1200-1300, reserve, NIB). Thank all y'all for the leads. Y'all are good'uns, and I LOVE this forum.

Y'all all take care, and when I get it, after I check her out, I'll share, for sure.

Mick

JustinTime
2nd March 2007, 00:34
...$899, NIB, went up from last week's $882. Seems they're getting rare. I've seen some NIB at auction for well over $1200. This from AJC Sports in Clute, Tx, thanks to you folks here; we don't have any Colt's dealers in the Brazos Valley that had one. I looked. I tried. My Va dealer couldn't get one. I bit the bullet, so to speak. I hope it's a good one. Our friend Joni Lynn here is getting one, as well. They're sure fine, I sure didn't need another pistol, but....... there you go. Take it while you can get it, I guess.

This will be it for a while. I know, I know, but gotta be. I'm like an arsenal, the past couple of years, got 1911 magazines and pistols all over the place, but HEY, I'm a law-abiding citizen, it's OKAY. I reckon it's all GOOD.

YOU folks helped me find one, as they get rarer and rarer and draw incredible prices at auction (1200-1300, reserve, NIB). Thank all y'all for the leads. Y'all are good'uns, and I LOVE this forum.

Y'all all take care, and when I get it, after I check her out, I'll share, for sure.

Mick

I'm happy for you and I'm pretty sure your gonna like it.

Barry in IN
2nd March 2007, 10:11
Congratulations Mick!
I know you were looking for a while.
I look forward to hearing about it, and hearing how it compares to your original. It seems like the happy people far outnumber the unhappy (too bad everything isn't that way) so odds are you'll get a good 'un.

Mick_In_Texas
2nd March 2007, 18:59
...I do want to compare it with First Lady. In another thread, someone told me that the WWI Repro was based on a 1918 military production model, so, there you go! First Lady was built in mid- to late-1918, according to her S/N. We will see, and DEFINITELY I will share with you folks here: John's forum... by introducing me to all y'all... is a major part of my wonderful experience with the 1911 platform! We all GET IT. Lots of folks don't. If I didn't have this place, it would be a lonely experience... I'd still love the platform, but, the sharing here, the encouragement, seeing all y'all's guns, it is just RICH. Really rich. It so adds to the enjoyment of this venerable design. Period.

Y'all all take care and be safe.
Mick

Joni Lynn
2nd March 2007, 19:02
You're going to like it Mick.......I got mine today and it's pretty nice.
No...........no pics yet.

Mick_In_Texas
2nd March 2007, 19:12
You're going to like it Mick.......I got mine today and it's pretty nice.
No...........no pics yet.

This is GREAT news, Joni Lynn!!! I am HAPPY for you!!! Just savor it tonight... I've heard they are very nice. I think, with your extensive firearms knowledge, it is very appropriate that YOU have one of these now... at least a lot of us folks who really appreciate them are managing to get them before they're gone. Wow.

Do share when you get the chance. Let us know how it shoots, too, ma'am.

You and yours take care and be safe.
Mick

Joni Lynn
2nd March 2007, 20:01
My showed up with a friend.........also in the box was a pretty new stainless series 70 Gov't.
( ;) Y :) )

Barry in IN
2nd March 2007, 20:02
You're going to like it Mick.......I got mine today and it's pretty nice.

And congrats to you, too!

OD*
2nd March 2007, 20:25
Congratulations Joni! http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/images/smilies/cheers.gif

pa_guns
2nd March 2007, 21:30
My showed up with a friend.........also in the box was a pretty new stainless series 70 Gov't.



Hi

Very cool !!!!

Congratulations

Bob

daveohno
2nd March 2007, 21:34
Aiiieeeee! Look what came in the mail, recently! No, it's the holster for son of pimp gun. Some BHB sent this to me.
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/daveohno/DSCN0437.jpg

Joni Lynn
2nd March 2007, 21:36
Coltitis does have it's merits.

OD*
2nd March 2007, 21:42
Toro toro, andale andale, ariba ariba!!
Speedy Gonzales

daveohno
2nd March 2007, 21:52
Toro toro, andale andale, ariba ariba!!
Speedy Gonzales
Thank you, Evil One!
I need to work on the pics, it hardly even looks like bright atainless. The holster detail came out pretty good though.

Joni, You got 2 at once, very cool!

pa_guns
2nd March 2007, 21:53
Aiiieeeee! Look what came in the mail, recently! No, it's the holster for son of pimp gun.

Hi

Not to bad - I kinda like it.

So what does the other side look like?

(as in is it a clip on or something else?)

Bob

Joni Lynn
2nd March 2007, 22:53
Now I've got 3 new Colt's to take out and break in........ ( :) Y ;) )
I'm quite the happy girl this weekend!

pa_guns
2nd March 2007, 23:04
Now I've got 3 new Colt's to take out and break in.......

Hi

Really a shame that the whole state will be under three feet of water all weekend. :D :D :D :D :D

Bob

Joni Lynn
2nd March 2007, 23:06
Go ahead.........rub it in.............if I don't get out soon to shoot them there will be four of them............they multiply like rabbits!

JustinTime
2nd March 2007, 23:10
Go ahead.........rub it in.............if I don't get out soon to shoot them there will be four of them............they multiply like rabbits!

Thats great....isn't it?

pa_guns
2nd March 2007, 23:14
Go ahead.........rub it in.............if I don't get out soon to shoot them there will be four of them............they multiply like rabbits!

Hi

Care to guess how many new 1911's are sitting here waiting for the weather to break?

Bob

Joni Lynn
2nd March 2007, 23:14
It works just fine for me.
I was waffling over the purchases for quite awhile and then just decided to do it.
I can always sell them off if I decide it wasn't one of my better ideas.

JustinTime
2nd March 2007, 23:18
It works just fine for me.
I was waffling over the purchases for quite awhile and then just decided to do it.
I can always sell them off if I decide it wasn't one of my better ideas.

So true, but if your anything like me that'll be like pulling teeth. When I decide to do something like that I tend to think of reasons I should keep _______ (fill in the blank).

Joni Lynn
2nd March 2007, 23:19
Bob I'd guess probably 5 but maybe more. I doubt that it's less.
Ok...........how many? ( :) Y ;) )

Joni Lynn
2nd March 2007, 23:20
They already have semi permanent parking places with the rest of the family.
I think they're staying.

pa_guns
2nd March 2007, 23:27
Bob I'd guess probably 5 but maybe more. I doubt that it's less.
Ok...........how many? ( :) Y ;) )

Hi

It depends on weather the Systema's count or not. If they do then it's 7 ... :D :D :D

Bob

Joni Lynn
2nd March 2007, 23:30
Bob between you and Hunter it's causing a 1911 shortage. :)

daveohno
3rd March 2007, 00:26
Hi

Not to bad - I kinda like it.

So what does the other side look like?

(as in is it a clip on or something else?)

Bob
Aiiieeeeee, this is the other side.....

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/daveohno/DSCN0438.jpg

pa_guns
3rd March 2007, 00:32
Bob between you and Hunter it's causing a 1911 shortage. :)

Hi

You have me beat on new Colts this week !!!

Bob

pa_guns
3rd March 2007, 00:33
Aiiieeeeee, this is the other side.....

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Hi

I like it !!!

Where'd it come from?

Bob

JustinTime
3rd March 2007, 03:45
Hi

It depends on weather the Systema's count or not. If they do then it's 7 ... :D :D :D

Bob

I've got 4 myself. Two are used ones I've bought on GB and two are my new Colts. The weather is not the deciding factor for me though. My work schedule is killing all my free time at the moment. Either way I'm itching to get to the range as well.

OD*
3rd March 2007, 10:48
Hi

I like it !!!

Where'd it come from?

Bob
Dave Duclos, grandson of "Tio Sam" Myers, who reopened S.D. Myers saddlery in Sweetwater, Texas a few years back.

Poohgyrr
3rd March 2007, 13:55
I searched for a website for the current SD Myers shop, but only found this link which didn't work for me http://mywebpages.comcast.net/johnk454/Myres/SDMyres.html

OD or anyone, do you know if he has a website??
I'll try an email for Dave and see if it works.

This sounds like a good reason to get that formal rig I "need" for weddings and such.. The overtime I'm working this weekend should pay for it..

Update, bummer the email didn't work for me. Anyone have a phone number?? I'll try calling.

And my wife is in Houston now too. Probably on the other side of TX, a ways from Sweetwater........

OD*
3rd March 2007, 14:06
OD or anyone, do you know if he has a website??
I don't believe he does John, this holster was from a group purchase we did on another board. It was supposed to have a special FSC stamp and of course the makers stamp, which as you can see, it has neither. I had to wait 2 1/2+ years to get it and when it finally did arrive, it's the wrong color and has none of the markings that was promised. Use El Paso Saddlery. ;)

Poohgyrr
3rd March 2007, 14:20
OD,
I've been busy and missed your response at first.. I've been looking at the pictures of El Paso's work for quite a while and it is nice.

I'll give them a call...........

I've been following this thread on the Colts you folks are getting, and you guys lit a fire that's been smoldering in me for a while for some nice leather....

Thanks. :D

PS: Congrats on all these fine looking Colts I see here too!!

cliff731
3rd March 2007, 14:22
My showed up with a friend.........also in the box was a pretty new stainless series 70 Gov't.
( ;) Y :) )

If this happened to me???... well, I would have thought I had died and gone to Colt Heaven!!! :confused:

Congrats, Joni Lynn... more like 2x Congrats!!! :D

Can't wait to see the pics of the new "babies" you've adopted this time!!! :p

OD*
3rd March 2007, 14:25
John,

I have several EPS holster's, floral, basket weave and plain, they do excellent work.

Joni Lynn
3rd March 2007, 18:57
This showed up about 8 days ago
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/Joni_Lynn/SCGCB.jpg
Yesterday these two arrived ready for adoption
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/Joni_Lynn/ColtWW1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/Joni_Lynn/Colt70Gov.jpg

Mick_In_Texas
3rd March 2007, 19:25
This showed up about 8 days ago
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/Joni_Lynn/SCGCB.jpg
Yesterday these two arrived ready for adoption
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/Joni_Lynn/ColtWW1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/Joni_Lynn/Colt70Gov.jpg

Joni Lynn, you've sure got a lot of nice "ponies" showing up around your place... You're outdoing Hunter, nowadays... LoL... This one is beautiful.

Y'all: Sweetwater is about halfway between Abilene and Midland on IH 20. Got a many a tattoo there from a fantastic tattoo artist, a woman. It's a long ways from Houston, as the crow flies and the highways run. Don't know about holsters... they got a new TDCJ prison unit there back in the late 90's, guess it helped the economy, it was a fairly small town, had a US Gypsum pit and plant there. Lots of old stone buildings, little hills, rare that far west to the north of the state. Kind of a cool place.

Dave, BEAUTIFUL holster! Interesting expanded version of a Yaqui. I've got the Springer XD plastic Yaqui, which I kind of like; had a Galco I didn't like, traded it with a member here for the OD Green Alumagrips for my RIA. I have Galcos and Horseshoe Leather. El Paso Saddlery (I think?) seems to make some real pretty holsters... I may have to check them out myself. Like I need another holster, either, though... A Yanqi style is especially good if you're carrying open, which I generally can't, except inside or out on the lands; doesn't offer much protection for the weapon, but, secure retainage and pretty quick draw if you need the gun. Out on the lands, I've unsnapped the thumb strap on my Galco, when carrying out there open, and loosened the weapon a bit in it, just in case: rattlesnakes and lately a few mountain lions moving back in. Don't want to shoot a mountain lion, and for the most part they stay out of humans's paths; but I ain't gonna become a snack for one, either, in a confrontation, beautiful as they are, if I can help it; I WOULD give one a warning shot first, though. One more reason lots of folks don't have, for carrying a reliable .45 as opposed to 9mm or .38 Special or something. They're showing up along the Brazos River lately, last two years or so. In a way, that's good. I haven't seen one since I was a little kid in Texas. They're starting to wreak havoc on some cattle ranchers, though. Animals gotta eat.

Anyways, great holster. I love the tooling on it! I love a quality leather holster. The feel of it, the finish, the quality of one... I don't particularly like the synthetics, hard or soft... a good leather one requires some conditioning and maintenance, but if you do that, they're like a long-term companion, just like the weapon they carry.

Wow, this is a great thread... so much information here.

Mick

TattooPaul
3rd March 2007, 19:38
I was gonna wisecrack the threesome but I'll stick to "That's a VERY sweet collection there!". That 70 Series looks great both blued and in stainless. Very clean and sharp. I can never say enough good about the Repro's and that Special Combat just exudes precision. You should post your whole corral sometime, Joni...

Joni Lynn
3rd March 2007, 19:44
Yes the blue series 70 was ordered as well but isn't here yet. Patience is a virtue right? ;)
This Coltitis is contagious. My father is even thinking about a Colt now and he's never had a 1911 before.

Mick_In_Texas
3rd March 2007, 20:00
Yes the blue series 70 was ordered as well but isn't here yet. {atience is a virtue right? ;)

Joni Lynn, YOU go woman GO!!! Wow... you're on a ROLL or something, here! Happy girl, INDEED!!! Hee hee... there's nothing wrong with getting guns. Not for us law-abiding folks. The world has gone crazy, NOT us. I'm happy for you, Joni Lynn. And all y'all. That Series 70 Repro was suggested to me in lieu of the WWI Repro; fortunately--and I prefer the Series 70 vs the 80, although my 38 Super Govt and my O1991 are 80s--I think I've gotten hold of the WWI Repro. And it is authentically, as you know, a 70. My P90 has a firing pin block, but JMB didn't put one in the 1911. I much prefer mine NOT to have it. My RIA and my Springers don't (although the Springers had that ILS in the MSH and have that tiny .38 cal titanium firing pin). That Mark IV Government Model my work buddy had, the first 1911A1 I ever really got acquainted with, was a 70. I don't know how old it is. He's had it for at least 20 years or more.

Yeah, patience is a virtue: I'm watching my bank account, to make sure the O1911 gets charged to my account. I mailed the order Thursday. Probably be Monday or Tue before AJC gets it. We'll see.

Mick

Joni Lynn
3rd March 2007, 20:05
The WW1 seems to be better fit than the 70 Gov't or the SCG. The bushing is as close to a perfect fit as could be without requiring a bushing wrench. The slide/frame has no play at all.

Joni Lynn
3rd March 2007, 20:09
Yup.........I'm gonna need more ammo.........no doubt about it.

OD*
3rd March 2007, 21:36
Congrats Joni, they all look terrific. http://forum.m1911.org/images/icons/icon14.gif

Joni Lynn
3rd March 2007, 21:40
Thanks............I've developed this insatiable appetite for Colt's. But you probably wouldn't understand that would ya??? ;)

JustinTime
3rd March 2007, 21:55
Thanks............I've developed this insatiable appetite for Colt's. But you probably wouldn't understand that would ya??? ;)

I know I wouldn't :D

pa_guns
3rd March 2007, 21:57
The WW1 seems to be better fit than the 70 Gov't or the SCG. The bushing is as close to a perfect fit as could be without requiring a bushing wrench. The slide/frame has no play at all.

Hi

I'm not quite sure mine is as good as yours, but it's certainly better fit than any of my other Colts.

Bob

Joni Lynn
3rd March 2007, 21:59
Bob, I think they are all well built. Gee, we'll have to get together and shoot them now.
We'll need ammo..................lots n lots of it ............ lol ;)

JustinTime
3rd March 2007, 22:00
The WW1 seems to be better fit than the 70 Gov't or the SCG. The bushing is as close to a perfect fit as could be without requiring a bushing wrench. The slide/frame has no play at all.

Mine is better than my SCG as well. I was surprised at that.

Joni Lynn
3rd March 2007, 22:02
I'm going to try really hard to keep my hands off and not do anything to it, no grips or other changes. I actually like this one as is. (possibly a first)
The stainless 70 Gov't I already have plans for.........heh heh heh........

OD*
3rd March 2007, 22:06
Thanks............I've developed this insatiable appetite for Colt's. But you probably wouldn't understand that would ya??? ;)
Me? No ma'am, not at all. ;)

Mick_In_Texas
3rd March 2007, 22:14
Hi

I'm not quite sure mine is as good as yours, but it's certainly better fit than any of my other Colts.

Bob

Of course, First Lady is functional and fine. I know my 38 Super Government Model is as well, and my O1991 seems to be, although because of my right hand injury, haven't been able to shoot her yet. I have heard stories here on the forum, about Colt's... But, I'm hoping my 1911 WWI Repro is as good as my others. As good as the rest of y'all have had, with yours. It's a beautiful model, that is for sure.

Mick

pa_guns
3rd March 2007, 22:25
Bob, I think they are all well built. Gee, we'll have to get together and shoot them now.
We'll need ammo..................lots n lots of it ............ lol ;)

Hi

I'm getting worried here. I don't think I have much over 10,000 rounds on hand. I may need to get Ivan to do an emergency air drop ..

Bob

Joni Lynn
3rd March 2007, 22:27
Air drop..............now why didn't I think of that..............I wonder what a pallet of 45acp would run? quantity discount? lol.........!

pa_guns
3rd March 2007, 22:41
Air drop..............now why didn't I think of that..............I wonder what a pallet of 45acp would run? quantity discount? lol.........!

Hi

The ammo has to come in from PI in containers. I wonder how many rounds of 45acp fit in a container ......

Bob

Joni Lynn
3rd March 2007, 22:44
I'm sure Ivan will probably show up with an answer before long. ;)

pa_guns
3rd March 2007, 22:47
Hi

I wonder how accurately they can air drop a container these days?

I suspect that there are no "minor mistakes" when it comes to a few tons of lead falling from the sky ...

Bob

Joni Lynn
3rd March 2007, 22:49
It depends on the pilot.............army, air force or navy?

pa_guns
3rd March 2007, 22:54
It depends on the pilot.............army, air force or navy?

Hi

I think I know what happens if I guess Navy. :D :D

Let's say FedEx.

Bob

Joni Lynn
3rd March 2007, 22:56
Truck shipment would be safest I think.

pa_guns
3rd March 2007, 23:04
Hi

I *know* how the truck shipment thing goes. The truck with container pulls up to the driveway and the guy named "I've got a bad back" knocks on the door. Next step is for the homeowner to get the 10 ton container off of the truck ....

Air drop is a *much* better solution.

Bob

Joni Lynn
3rd March 2007, 23:07
Yes, but the landing through the roof onto your nice car or truck wouldn't be the best idea either. Not to mention the bounce.

pa_guns
3rd March 2007, 23:10
Hi

Laser guided containers of 45acp ammo?

Anybody have a laser target designator I can borrow for a few days?

Of course I suppose I still have some 308 tracers and I could use them in my brand new toy ...

Bob

Joni Lynn
4th March 2007, 00:18
Wow..........sure is difficult to keep you happy. ;)