Pt1911

[FM12]

Any comments from buyers/users?Good, bad or ugly?

[jarine]

I bought one for Christmas (12-2006) and have enjoyed shooting it since. It's very accurate and handles very nice. My only complaint is that it has a heinie straigth eight sights which I'm still trying to get used to. Although, I am finding that I get on target a lo faster with it than with the three dot sights.
To date I've put over 2300 rounds through it without a single hicup.
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[jpwilly]

I just purchased a PT1911 in Dec 06 and love it. You should check out the Taurus Manufacturer link. I have not had any issues with mine although some have - it is a small percentage. Good luck getting one though they are scarce due to demand.

[Linkinlog]

I almost picked one up at the gun show last weekend for $530 out the door. Luckily, I didn't bring enough cash. My buddy offered to cover the difference but I walked away from it. :o :D It looked very nice.

[ArmyPilot]

Love mine! Finish is weak but it is an excellent shooter. I don't think you'd be disappointed!

Brad

[ssonb]

got one a month ago love the thing.it shoots great.the only problem i have had was my shots were going low.i found that i was adjusting my grip on the pistol and it was pulling the shots.installed some hogue grips. cured that,so to make a short story long . twernt de gun

[tackdriver]

In spite of the hype, I believe you do get what you pay for with the Taurus.

The good -- you get a lot of "custom" options for cheap and these pistols are gaining a reputation for out-of-the-box accuracy.

The bad -- the finish is terrible, the front checkering is subpar, fit tends to be looser than cheaper pistols and many have chamfered firing pin holes that cause a mushrooming primer of debatable concern.

Mine has been back to the factory twice within two months of purchase. I would get rid of it altogether, but it's the most accurate pistol I've ever owned. :butthead:

IF I had it to do over, I would have purchased another pistol. You can get a blued Springfield Milspec for about $50 more.

[bcnu]

I must have gotten lucky. I just bought one last week and have found it to be the most rattle free 1911 that I have seen that don't cost an arm and a leg. The finish looks really good right now but as I said, it has only been mine for a week. Will have to wait and see what it looks like after it has been carried for awhile. I don't see anything wrong with the checkering. I don't recall ever missing a target on account of checkering. It is possible that you just got a bad one. I am sure that there are lemmons in everything that is man made. Hope it works out better in the end. John

[anyplainjoe]

In spite of the hype, I believe you do get what you pay for with the Taurus.

The good -- you get a lot of "custom" options for cheap and these pistols are gaining a reputation for out-of-the-box accuracy.

The bad -- the finish is terrible, the front checkering is subpar, fit tends to be looser than cheaper pistols and many have chamfered firing pin holes that cause a mushrooming primer of debatable concern.

Mine has been back to the factory twice within two months of purchase. I would get rid of it altogether, but it's the most accurate pistol I've ever owned. :butthead:

IF I had it to do over, I would have purchased another pistol. You can get a blued Springfield Milspec for about $50 more.

Sorry you've had problems. That's alot of gerneralization for a line which is setting the 1911 world on fire.

[dbadcraig]

Sorry you've had problems. That's alot of gerneralization for a line which is setting the 1911 world on fire.

anyplainjoe-

I think tackdriver has made some very valid points, some, I will agree with. I have owned my PT1911 for over 6 months and I have put over 2,000 rounds through it. It has been very reliable and it is more accurate than it needs to be for the intended purpose (it is not a bullseye pistol). I can manage 2 1/2-3" unsupported groups at 50'- which as about as well as I can shoot.

The fit on my PT1911 was not real tight when new (it is even less so now) but it has an outstanding trigger (that is what sold me). I found this pistol shortly after the American Rifleman reviewed the PT1911, and the only gripe they had was a 7 pound trigger, the trigger on my pistol is about half that pull.

These pistols are made under one roof so to speak (not a mixed parts gun, but manufactured in house by Taurus). That is likely a plus as it allows for better quality control, but on the other hand there still seems to be a bit of a variation in one pistol to the next. I suspect this has to do with Taurus personnel learning the ropes in the final fit of this pistol.

I had my choice of several PT1911s at the time of my purchase and while there were some with tighter fit, none had a better trigger. I made the right choice for me, I went for the best trigger. While there may be variations from one pistol to another in the early production, I would be curious to see if there is less so now in the later production.

Getting a very good 1911 from Taurus is far from a "roll of the dice", from the early poll results it appears that the odds are among the best in the industry of getting a pistol that will be both accurate and reliable. It is very likely that the next PT1911 that is sold will out perform many pistols costing several times more (mine certainly does). My fired cases bear the "Taurus signature" on the primers and I showed it to the rangemaster (a 1911 shooter) the very first day, he shrugged it off, and so have I, it seems to be of little importance (so far).

Some folks (few) have had problems with their pistols and this will obviously shade their opinion, others like me have had excellent service and this will shade my opinion. For someone like tackdriver who has had a problem pistol to be as balanced as he has been in his views is remarkable. In terms of cosmetics, I think he is right on the money. The checkering is there, but it isn't executed with old world flair (actually it looks to be more stamped than cut to my eye).

I would, however, disagree with tackdriver that you get what you pay for in this pistol and in the world of 1911s. I think that is the myth that Taurus will put to rest. I have seen custom and semi-custom built guns that will shoot no more accurately (I think on this score tackdriver might agree with me) than the PT1911. There are some major names out there building 1911s for several hundred dollars over the cost of the PT1911 (I will not mention any names but if you log into other sites here on this forum, you will see who I am talking about), that just can't seem to get it right and would be better off getting out of the 1911 business than to have their otherwise fine reputations hurt by the offering.

Bottom line, if my best friend were asking me for advice, I would recommend the PT1911 as a great value, but I would also recommend that he go to a store that had several that he handle and chose the one he likes best.

Doug

[sonofsarge]

Nephew has one. He likes it for what it is. A shooter. Ain't pretty, Ain't custom, Ain't famous. Shoots just as well as my Colt Govt or RIA or S&W.

[Cap'n]

Have 1,300 rounds through my PT1911 in past 3 - 4 weeks. No malfunctions; 85% of ammo has been reloads.

Yesterday I settled on the best load for my pistol:
200-gr Laser-Cast LSWCBB 0.452 dia.
5.4 gr Winchester 231
Winchester Large Pistol Primers
S&B brass (but I'll be shooting mixed brass hereafter)
O.A.L. = 1.250 inches
FCD'ed at 1/2 turn or 0.473 case neck O.D. with bullet seated
no chronograph data

This recipe was producing average 5-shot groups of 2.8 inches at 25 yards from a semi-benchrest position (forearms on shooting bench but hands / pistol unsupported in the air). I've made no sight adjustments, and these groups were centered around the X bullseye.

Color me happy.

[Old Guy]

Picked it up last Wednesday and went to the range yesterday. 250 rounds without a single problem.

My first 1911 and no complaints. The trigger is light and no drag. No mushrooming on the primers. The checkering on the frontstrap is good (it looks different from what I've seen on other pistols, but it doesn't look like it was done with a ballpeen hammer and a chisel). And most importantly, where you point is where it shoots.

The grips are typical plastic grips. I changed out the grips on my Beretta and S&W for Hogue rubber grips and noticed a comfortable difference, so I'm going to do the same thing on my PT1911.

I'd recommend this gun to anyone, whether they were beginning shooters or had a whole collection of Kimbers.

[tackdriver]

Sorry you've had problems. That's alot of gerneralization for a line which is setting the 1911 world on fire.

Poster asked for experience. This is my experience. I would've rather had a better experience, too. I think you guys on here work for Taurus sometimes the way people react. :scared:

Joking aside, I think you're just about as likely to get an unbiased opinion of the Taurus on here as you are to get one of a Glock 17 on Glock Talk.

For someone like tackdriver who has had a problem pistol to be as balanced as he has been in his views is remarkable.

Thanks, I'm a professional. Really :D

[anyplainjoe]

I missed my employee discount!

[Jimmac]

Well, I got mine (PT1911) Feb 15, haven't shot it yet, but will this week. Had a SS AMT many years ago, but sold it before I could shoot it. Owning a gun store, I had many guns I never got a chance to shoot, but now will be able to shoot this one. Looking forward to finding a good load (homemade) for it.
Just joined this forum, my first post.
Jim

[Mike1951]

To tackdriver,

I admit you've had an awful lot go wrong in less than two months. Let's try to take a closer look in review.

You bought a PT1911 from Gander Mountain that had a divot in the barrel. If this happened prior to Taurus' shipping of the pistol, it would definitely reflect poorly on their QC for not catching it, but it could have happened at any point during distribution.

It is concievable that Taurus might have sent you a replacement barrel and allowed you to return yours.

You got bad information about whether GM would return the PT1911 for you so you were out the high shipping charges.

Without researching shipping requirements, you tried to ship from other than a Fedex or UPS center, which is not allowed, so you were inconvenienced.

Had you contacted Taurus and insisted, they would have picked the gun up at no charge or inconvenience to you.

The repair and return of your PT1911 took longer than you were told and that is unfortunate. They also denied your request for reimbursement, but as I said above, you could probably have avoided that expense completely.

That brings us up to the ballooning primers problem, which you have blown out of all proportion. I have an earlier PT that has a perfect firing pin hole and a later one that has the chamfered hole and shows a limited flowing of the primer surface into the chamfer. I do not believe that the condition can ever get any worse. I traded a third PT to my best friend who has been a Colt only 1911 devotee since his time in the Marine Corps in the '70-80's. He called me tonight to say that his PT has the chamfer and that he wants another PT1911 as soon as I can find one at a good price.

Your experience with the PT has been troubled, but I suggest that many problems you've encountered were your own doing or could have otherwise been avoided.

You will never be happy with the PT so I suggest that you sell it and buy something that you will be happy with. Your statement that folks here wouldn't give an unbiased opinion about the PT is ridiculous. Look at some other forums here.

How's your bias on the PT1911?

[tackdriver]

Mike, you're wrong about most of what you've posted here.

It is concievable that Taurus might have sent you a replacement barrel and allowed you to return yours.
I did contact Taurus and they told me to ship the entire gun to them so the replacement barrel could be fitted to the existing pistol frame.

Without researching shipping requirements, you tried to ship from other than a Fedex or UPS center, which is not allowed, so you were inconvenienced.
I researched FedEx's own shipping policies before I left. After I was turned away from the FedEx Kinko's, I called FedEx. The customer service rep I spoke to reiterated that firearms can be shipped from "any" FedEx location as long as they're being sent to a FFL holder. This is incorrect. I was later connected to a company ombudsman who was also under the impression that "any" FedEx location could accept a firearm for shipment. She later called a FedEx center for me and cleared that I could ship it there. When I got there they told me I couldn't. This is a problem with FedEx, not me.

Had you contacted Taurus and insisted, they would have picked the gun up at no charge or inconvenience to you.
Wrong again. As mentioned above, I did contact Taurus before I shipped. They told me I had to send the pistol postage paid. Your conclusion is further refuted by the fact that they refused to reimburse shipping.

That brings us up to the ballooning primers problem, which you have blown out of all proportion.
That's your opinion. The company is shipping more than a few pistols with this manufacturing defect and pretending it knows nothing about it. Even if it's not a safety hazard, which is debatable, it IS an out-of-spec manufacturing defect. If Ford was shipping trucks where every fifth F-150 had a dented hood, I doubt Ford owners would say, "ah, the hood is dented, but it's not a safety issue so who cares?"

Mike, if you and others here want to continue to take my problems with this pistol personally and spend so much time attacking my opinions, do so, but I think you're wasting your time. I'd rather let intelligent people make up their minds based on the balance of opinions expressed here.

[Mike1951]

Mike, you're wrong about most of what you've posted here.


Quote:
It is concievable that Taurus might have sent you a replacement barrel and allowed you to return yours.


I did contact Taurus and they told me to ship the entire gun to them so the replacement barrel could be fitted to the existing pistol frame.


I stand corrected.

Quote:
Without researching shipping requirements, you tried to ship from other than a Fedex or UPS center, which is not allowed, so you were inconvenienced.


I researched FedEx's own shipping policies before I left. After I was turned away from the FedEx Kinko's, I called FedEx. The customer service rep I spoke to reiterated that firearms can be shipped from "any" FedEx location as long as they're being sent to a FFL holder. This is incorrect. I was later connected to a company ombudsman who was also under the impression that "any" FedEx location could accept a firearm for shipment. She later called a FedEx center for me and cleared that I could ship it there. When I got there they told me I couldn't. This is a problem with FedEx, not me.


Many handgun related forums have correct, detailed information of what is required to ship handguns. I guess I expected someone else to research as much as I would have.

Quote:
Had you contacted Taurus and insisted, they would have picked the gun up at no charge or inconvenience to you.


Wrong again. As mentioned above, I did contact Taurus before I shipped. They told me I had to send the pistol postage paid. Your conclusion is further refuted by the fact that they refused to reimburse shipping.

I can only go by my contact. I called them and said I had a 1911 with the chamfered firing pin hole. They denied knowing of the problem, but without asking, offered to have the pistol picked up at their expense. I told them I didn't think the condition warranted return.

Quote:
That brings us up to the ballooning primers problem, which you have blown out of all proportion.


That's your opinion. The company is shipping more than a few pistols with this manufacturing defect and pretending it knows nothing about it. Even if it's not a safety hazard, which is debatable, it IS an out-of-spec manufacturing defect. If Ford was shipping trucks where every fifth F-150 had a dented hood, I doubt Ford owners would say, "ah, the hood is dented, but it's not a safety issue so who cares?"

Agreed, and I would prefer that the last two I bought were the same as the first one which had a non-chamfered firing pin hole. At some point, if Taurus presents a program to correct it, I will take part. Until then, for your analogy to be correct, pick a non-visible body part, say a muffler bracket.

Mike, if you and others here want to continue to take my problems with this pistol personally and spend so much time attacking my opinions, do so, but I think you're wasting your time. I'd rather let intelligent people make up their minds based on the balance of opinions expressed here.


Just remember, I was attacking your opinions only and not you. I think it's extremely unfortunate that you've had such a bad string of events. Maybe I'm just an intolerant, stubborn, old fool, but I wouldn't have readily accepted Gander Mountain's answer about shipping it for you nor Taurus' decision not to have it picked up. Maybe in 56 years, I have learned how to get things done.

As far as letting intelligent people make up their minds, I believe they have/are. It seems the majority here recognize it for the cosmetic issue that it would appear to be.

But I do think that your experience has totally destroyed your objectivity and you are now on a 'mission' to criticize Taurus and the PT1911.

If the PT is actually as bad as you report, you really should get rid of it.

[vikz]

I've been reading about this pt1911 bec. i am planning to get one in dec.(save some money first) and by reading this thread i am honestly not sure now...can icompared to my dw pointman7? or is that like a toyota vs. a bmw??

[Mike1951]

I've been reading about this pt1911 bec. i am planning to get one in dec.(save some money first) and by reading this thread i am honestly not sure now...

Relax and follow the forum. If you plan to wait till December to purchase, all issues should be settled by then, one way or the other. You'll have twice as much PT1911 history to base your decision.

I have not seen anything to dampen my enthusiasm for the PT1911.

[TK6411]

Mike1951, I could not agree more. I love my PT1911.

[parrottman]

Mike, you're wrong about most of what you've posted here.


I did contact Taurus and they told me to ship the entire gun to them so the replacement barrel could be fitted to the existing pistol frame.


I researched FedEx's own shipping policies before I left. After I was turned away from the FedEx Kinko's, I called FedEx. The customer service rep I spoke to reiterated that firearms can be shipped from "any" FedEx location as long as they're being sent to a FFL holder. This is incorrect. I was later connected to a company ombudsman who was also under the impression that "any" FedEx location could accept a firearm for shipment. She later called a FedEx center for me and cleared that I could ship it there. When I got there they told me I couldn't. This is a problem with FedEx, not me.


Wrong again. As mentioned above, I did contact Taurus before I shipped. They told me I had to send the pistol postage paid. Your conclusion is further refuted by the fact that they refused to reimburse shipping.


That's your opinion. The company is shipping more than a few pistols with this manufacturing defect and pretending it knows nothing about it. Even if it's not a safety hazard, which is debatable, it IS an out-of-spec manufacturing defect. If Ford was shipping trucks where every fifth F-150 had a dented hood, I doubt Ford owners would say, "ah, the hood is dented, but it's not a safety issue so who cares?"

Mike, if you and others here want to continue to take my problems with this pistol personally and spend so much time attacking my opinions, do so, but I think you're wasting your time. I'd rather let intelligent people make up their minds based on the balance of opinions expressed here.
Tackdriver,

It sounds like you have fallen prey to the Taurus "Customer Service" system. I have owned several Taurus pistols and when (not if) they break their C.S. *****. I have finally sold all but one of my Taurus guns (it hasn't broke yet) and I won't buy any more. Get a RIA, Kimber or Dan Wesson.

[jarine]

tackdriver,

I too am sorry that you are having problems with your PT1911. I hope it all works out in the end for you.
As for mine, I have now put about 5,000 rds through it and not a single problem. I still don't like the sights though.
This was from last week at 15 yrds slow fire using American Eagle 230 gr.

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[JKD COBRA]

Get a RIA, Kimber or Dan Wesson.
A lot of people have said that to me when I was researching which 1911 to purchase. But my Taurus has performed as good or better then some of the pistols mentioned above.

First let me say that I am still inexperienced in this area. This was my first 1911 and basically the third pistol I have fired. I have fired a glock19 9mm, a Kimber, and the Taurus that I own. Before I purchased the Taurus I was at the local range with a friend and we rented a Kimber 1911. I fired it for 50 rounds and it had two FTF's. The glock (which I had fired about 400 rounds through it) had only one FTF. And yet the Taurus, (which I will be hitting the 850 round mark today, and 1,000 rounds by next week) has never had an FTF or FTE.

Each time a range officer sees me firing the Taurus PT1911 they have always said how much they are impressed by the pistol and they always compare it to a kimber. Yes, their customer service can be difficult at times, but they do have a few people working in CS that were very nice to deal with.

I just think its unfair to tell someone to completely write off the Taurus because of a bad experience you had.

[TK6411]

I also have zero problems with my PT1911 unlike my Kimber and Colt 1911's which I have now sold off (because of all the problems). People can say what they want about how Kimber and Colt are great and worth the money spent but I didn't see it.

[DemoMan]

I also have zero problems with my PT1911 unlike my Kimber and Colt 1911's which I have now sold off (because of all the problems). People can say what they want about how Kimber and Colt are great and worth the money spent but I didn't see it.

I've been lurking around the forum for a while. Initially it was because I was researching what I might want to buy at the winter gun show here in Indy. I finally settled on Kimber, though I was very curious about the new Taurus.

At the show you couldn't lay your hand on a Taurus; apparently every one in the place sold the first day by early afternoon. So I ended up with a Kimber TLE II. I've been very happy with the weapon right out of the box, but I know there are others who have not.

All this is just background for an observation. I am really amazed at the wide range of experiences people have with 1911's from the same manufacturer. I don't think you can name a manufacturer that doesn't have at least one person saying "I'll never touch one of those again." That goes for the higher end lines and the less expensive ones.

I'm a little suprised. I realize that a pistol is a machine that has very little tolerance for error and has to contend with some extreme forces, but this design has been around nearly 100 years....why then are there so many horror stories floating around about newly manufactured weapons?

Of course it could be that we're mainly seeing the complaints online. People are much more likely to post their gripes than their praise but that makes it difficult for a prospective buyer to pick a gun. Is there anywhere that tracks these manufacturers? I'd be interested in stats such as % of returns, satisfaction ratings, customer service ratings, etc.

[anyplainjoe]

I think most people are vocal when things go wrong, vs when things go right. Enjoy the 1911 world.

[ADaughen]

I got to shoot Dad's PT1911 on Sunday. The trigger is SMOOTH.

I shot my Father-In-Law's Stainless Colt Series 80, my Para P14, and Dad's PT1911. The Colt tore up the webbing between the thumb and pointer finger. My Para was decent as usual and the Taurus was a shock. I know he paid $530 OTD on it. It shoots better than the loaded Kimber I had shot in the past and definitely put the Colt and Para in their place.

Dad's only complaint, it has been his carry gun for ~2 months, he said he has noticed holster wear starting to form on the slide.

When the Stainless version comes out, it looks like I'll have a new 1911. :D

Taurus did right when they made this gun. Dad was disappointed after the 24/7 and I was honestly surprised he went back to Taurus, but the feel was good. The shooting was even better.

The only thing I found bothersome was when I gripped the gun the webbing of my hand sometimes caught the ambi-safety. The safety's operation was soo smooth I had flicked it on at one point and didn't notice.

[Justice4all]

The reality is that it's a "dice roll" with virtually any of the 1911 makers.

In my case, luck was on my side as I've now got two great PT's. I also just picked up a S&W1911 PD that has turned out fine. Then again, my first three 1911's had issues, some minor some major.

It doesn't matter how long they've been in production or where they are made, if there are humans involved, there's plenty of mistakes and oversights to be made. :D

[TK6411]

My own experience with Kimber and Colt hasn't been good 1911-wise. Sorry to say that for the $$$$ spent it was a frustrating and misserable experience whereas, quite unexpectedly my Taurus PT1911 has exceeded any of my expectations and performed flawlessly for much less spent. I'm always glad to hear that others have had little or no trouble with their chosen firearm. I am quite happy with my Taurus PT1911.

[jpwilly]

I've commented before but wanted to jump back in now that my PT1911 has been out three more trips to the range and a defensive pistol training with me. My personal experience with it is far more "mature" now and I can confidently say if you get a good PT1911 YOU WILL FALL IN LOVE WITH IT no matter what 1911 you've owned previously unless you are a gun snob!

[sprice1973]

I just bought my Taurus,put a couple hundred rounds through it yesterday.Love it!Very good accuracy out of the box,a very well built pistol.I would recommend to anyone loking into buying a 1911 type pistol.

[Jimmac]

Well I finally got to shoot my Taurus. I picked up a Colt Gold Cup Natl. Match last week with 500 reloads.

Shot the reloads in the Natl Match, worked fine, had about 5 occasions with the Taurus, pulled the trigger as hard as I could but nothing. Don't know for sure what the problem was, range officer had the same problem with it, and he is a 1911 guy from way back, he didn't have an answer.

Will go later this week with factory ammo, and see if there is a problem with the gun or the reloads. The reloads later fired in the Taurus????

:butthead:

[Mike1951]

had about 5 occasions with the Taurus, pulled the trigger as hard as I could but nothing.

Please elaborate.

Did the hammer fall?

If so, was the primer indented at all?

The only situation I can think of where you pull the trigger and nothing happens is when a safety is still engaged.

If nothing was truly happening, I don't see how it could be the ammo.

[Jimmac]

NO, the hammer did not fall, nothing happened, it was in the middle of a string, so the safety was not on, I don't think it could have gotten on by itself. Back to the range tomorrow, will see what happens. Was testing 3 new guns. Only the Taurus and a new 38 to check tomorrow.

Thanks for the reply

Jim

[Mike1951]

It would seem to be a linkage problem that's over my head.

I'll have to yield to some of the more knowledgeable folks here.

[ADaughen]

The ambi safety on the PT1911 is so easy to put on I didn't know it was on until I tried to pull the trigger the first time. (My webbing climbed the grip and pushed it up.)

Only other time I have seen that happen is when the slide didn't go fully forward. Usually happens on my .22 when the chamber gets too full of lead debris or out of spec .22 rds don't slide in easily.

[CreapyCrawler]

I have had my PT1911 about a month now and have about 500 rounds through it, mixed factory, reloads, FMJ, and LSWC and it shoots them all. I have seen the primer issue and am convinced it is due to the champhered firing pin hole and not a safety issue. Many highend guns champher the firingpin hole as a upgrate for reliability so I'm not concerned. About the only thing I don't like is the plastic grips which can be replaced easily and the lack of standard dovetail size as I would like to change to target sights. I am in process of looking for the magic bullet for target shooting but right now it seems to like 200gr. LSWC. This is an excellent gun for the money and appears will become a great platform for those wishing to bulid a 1911. I too will be looking for a Stainless version in the future.

Just a comment on shipping. I had to ship a gun back to Springfield and discovered that FedEx will ship guns without a problem but many of the store Like MailBox Express and others have their own rules opposite of FedEx. I shipped my gun through a FedEx regional office without a problem when my local store would not ship it.

[anyplainjoe]

In regards to shipping, UPS is the same way. The gun must be taken to their Customer Center to be overnight shipped, not one of the store front locations.

[Jimmac]

Well, another day at the range with the Taurus 1911. Factory ammo, twice it didn't want to fire, checked the safety, it was off. Both times it was the last round in the magazine (2 different mags). It is possible I'm not releasing the trigger all the way, because as I'm lowering the gun, it has fired. Ran out of ammo before I could check this out.
I shot from sandbags to try to find the aim point, got one nice group near the bull, the next mag all went 7 oclock out of the 8 ring, nice group all touching, but have no idea why the change of impact. I'm just about ready to go back to my wheel guns.

Anyhow, guys, thanks for your input on my questions.

Jim

[FrankAR15]

How about the grip safety? Maybe it's semi-engaging??

Send it back to taurus, they should fix it.