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Troy Tedder
9th June 2004, 21:50
I ordered a Colt Gold Cup National Match and when it got to the dealer it was a Gold Cup Trophy. The book listed it as a gold up national match. I called colt and asked what the difference was and all they said was that Gold Cup Trophys now come from the custom shop. What Gives. surely somebody knows what the difference is.

GCT00427
10th June 2004, 05:16
Gold Cup Trophys were first produced in late 1996 and early 1997 through the present. Mine is under a 500 serial number and was ordered and purchased in May of 1997. They were produced in the Custom Shop and may still be. Colt's advertised them as having enhanced tolerances, which I believe. The first ones had the Elliason sight and top slide serrations, Kings barrel bushing, Videki hammer and trigger, and a Smith & Alexander checkered main spring housing in both blue and stainless finishes. They have evolved in recent years, The custom parts are gone. The blue finished guns have retained the Elliason sight and serrated top of slide. The blued guns are not in the latest catalog but are still in the pipeline. The SS version now has a round top slide and a Bomar sight and has been made for a few years now. Col. Colt from 1911 Forum calls them the "Carry Model Gold Cup". They are probably in most cases a better fit gun than the Enhanced models. Here are pictures of each. I hope that this has been helpful.

Chuck

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Troy Tedder
10th June 2004, 07:34
Thanks Chuck you I am going to print off this info to show my jerk buddy that they really are form the custom shop. excellent "yo da man!!!!!

care-less
31st July 2004, 13:52
I just picked up a new GC Trophy myself. They do indeed come from Colts Custom Shop. Colt no longer makes the Gold Cup National Match; the Gold Cup Trophy National Match has replaced it. They just call it the Gold Cup Trophy on the pistol; though it is still hand fitted with a National Match barrel, bushing, and of course the National Match Sear, Hammer, and Disconnector. The top rib is gone as are the Eliasons; they were fragile anyway. In their place are Bomars dovetailed into the slide; a much stronger sight and mounting. They still come with two recoil springs; a 16, and an 18.5. They are really beautiful pistols; enjoy it.

Hunter
4th September 2004, 01:50
Aluminum 3 hole trigger, different grip safety, and no sear depressor leg or spring.

GCT00427
4th September 2004, 07:41
I believe that with the aluminum three hole trigger that there was no longer a need for the special sear that most people despised. Also, I think that the springs that come with the Gold Cups, even the Trophies are 16 lb standard and a 10lb for shooting light target loads. These are great guns.

Chuck

lil toad
4th September 2004, 10:18
I just dealt a 264 mag to a guy for a colt gold cup trophy model serial # GCT12345. I absolutely love this pistol. It drives 152 swc's into 1 1/2 inches at twenty five yards if I can hold up my end. The only complaint is the pin on the Eliason sight kept working out, so I had to flare the ends, and it cost me a small scratch on my slide. It's barely noticeable, but it's there. Anybody have that problem?

GCT00427
4th September 2004, 13:34
Cool Serial # :D

Chuck

lil toad
4th September 2004, 16:59
When I saw the serial # I had to have it. I loved the 264 but a GCT with that # just shouldn't be passed up.

GetaGrip
30th September 2004, 07:54
The same thing that happened to Troy happened to my friend. He had decided that he wanted a renowned Gold Cup National Match and ordered one from a dealer. But when the gun arrived he was told that it was a Trophy, not a National Match. Yes, the gun comes from the custom shop. Yes, it has the upgraded components. And yes, we are only talking about a name here, but I think names are important. To me it is like plunking down the cash for a legendary Colt Python only to find out that when it arrives it is now called the Colt Garter Snake. When you go to the Colt web site they still lead you to believe that you can buy a Gold Cup National Match. There is no mention of the Trophy as far as I can see. I can find no history as to why the name was changed to Trophy. (The name National Match has been associated with excellence for years - so why change it.) There is also no promotion of the Trophy as an equal or superior firearm to the National Match. There is a mystery here and I am hoping someone with more knowledge about 1911s than I have can shed some light on this.

lil toad
30th September 2004, 13:34
I have no clue why it was changed, but I'll keep it. This gun loves lead wad cutters especially the light stuff. There isn't any doubt that it has been smoothed over by the custom shop. Just racking the slide reveals special treatment. It is as smooth as butter. I didn't care for the trigger, so I installed a King's model, but other than that she's a stocker.

Silverslug
30th September 2004, 14:06
Lil toad, where did you find the "Kings" trigger for the Gold Cup? I would like to change mine but I haven't found one. I didn't know there where any after market triggers for the Gold Cup, I was told nobody made a the wider trigger for it. Thanks any help appreciated.

lil toad
30th September 2004, 14:50
Brownells. It will require fitting at the top and bottom of the trigger, but it's woth it. You can go directly to their web site at www.Brownells.com and type in King trigger in the serach engine. That should bring it up for you. I purchased the anodized gold colored one which really stands out against the bluing of the pistol.

Silverslug
30th September 2004, 15:56
Thanks, lil toad. I don't know how I missed it. I've got a Brownells catalog sitting in front of me. Page 122 catalog 57, top left, if anyone else is wondering. :o

lil toad
30th September 2004, 16:04
No problem.

care-less
4th October 2004, 00:53
The springs are 18 and 16 lb. You can call Colt to verify. A ten pound spring sure wouldn't be worth much in a 1911.