Does this look right??

[lhgdale]

Hello, I got my TRS back from my Baer dealer they were installing some sights on my gun. I had them put a Yost on the rear and a Baer FO front sight.

Does this look right?

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e395/lhgdale/100_1662.jpg

This picture shows the rear of the sight has a space between it and slide but the front has no space.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e395/lhgdale/100_1664.jpg

You can see the area where the slide goes in on the left but on the right you can't see the space. It also looks like the sight is crooked?


Let me know what you guys think. I think this looks pretty bad. The dealer also scratched up my slide pretty bad when they were installing them.

What do I do??

[Joni Lynn]

Maybe the night janotor did the work.
It doesn't look quite right to me.

[Texas Boy86]

Wow, that just dont look right. I'd say call the people who did the work back.
I agree with Joni, the night janitor did it! :D

[lhgdale]

I sent the dealer a email with the pics. This is a very large Outdoors store in Birmingham Alabama, who is supposed to have a full time highly trained gunsmith. I don't know how someone could let a gun leave looking like mine. They really messed up my hard chrome finish and I am sure I couldn't get even 1 foot groups with that sight. I am so discouraged!!! :butthead:

[Hawkmoon]

That's worse than the janitor. That looks like I might have done it ... and I'm no gunsmith.

I think you need to have a heart-to-heart talk with the gunsmith. If it's a multiple-person shop, talk to the owner. If it's a one-man show you'll still be talking to the owner, but you'll also be sure you're talking to the guy who messed it up, so you'll need to keep your cool and be polite, but firm. The workmanship is sub-standard ... what is he prepared to do about it? Make him be specific -- don't settle for "we'll take care of it. You want things to get better, not worse.

Did that sight fit the original dovetail, or did he have to machine the slide? If he machined it, it doesn't appear that he had the slide set straight and plumb in the milling machine vise.

[Texas Boy86]

Is your hard chrome finish brushed or polished? If its brushed ur out of luck. If its polished just get some, Flitz or Maas metal polish from wal-mart and rub it out. If theres a run in the chrome a certain "gunsmith" owes you a refinish. If he machined the slide and boogered it, he owes you a new slide to.

[Charles Carnel]

I usually find that if you take a look at the condition of a dealers inventory you will get a good idea how they will treat firearms you bring in to have serviced I see lots of dealers in this area and others with "NIB" firearms with nasty scratches, dings, chings and other handling marks that could easily be avoided. I cringe when I see them basically drop/drag the pistols over tops of the display cases or lay one directly on top of another firearm. I can't say that i'm not a little anal retentive about these things but when you drop 1-3k on a firearm I feel you have a right to be. Half the fun of collecting guns is enjoying the aesthetic beauty of these pieces and it's a shame when some treat them like kitchen utensils. <end rant>

Anyways I think you should take it back and ask them to have it sent to les baer for refinishing and to have a professional properly swap your sights. Did you tell them about the scratches before you left the store? If not it's highly likely that they will say you scratched it. Unfortunately in this day and age there are very few people who will man up to their mistakes unless you catch them in the act

I live in B'ham as well. Which dealer did you have this service at? What range do you shoot at?

[lhgdale]

I live in B'ham as well. Which dealer did you have this service at? What range do you shoot at?

Marks Outdoors is where I bought and had the service done on my TRS. I usually shoot at the FOP range or at a friends homemade range. They did not charge me for the install because they said they scratched the sight and gun a little. It was noted on my receipt. I really did not look the gun over (my mistake) with a fine tooth comb until I got home.

I will probably just send the slide back to Baer and have if refinished and the sight installed by a professional. I can't tell you how mad I am about this. I will never deal with Marks Outdoors again.

Looking closer at the front sight it seems they filed the sight down until it would fit because it is not even seated properly there is a gap at the bottom of the sight. There are also alot of plastic shavings wedged between the sight and the slide.

Charles Carnel: Do you know a good shop or smith in B'ham that can be trusted? I am definately in need of a new gun shop. Thanks.

[dogdollar]

Sir,
I understand your frustration, and I am infuriated at what they have done to your pistol....there should be jail time for this !!!!
I know that LBC will be sympathetic and get you up and running again, but there certainly will be a cost, and rightly so.........
But, please, for all our sake - at least go back in there and let the owner and the gunsmith see what they did so it won't just happen to someone else. This so-called gunsmith needs to be fired - no excuses.
Thanks,
Tim
P.S. - John Harrison at Precision Gun Works in Atlanta can fix it. Call him and ask about pricing, etc. - he has earned the prestigious Dogdollar Four Star award.

[Ericthenorse]

Not charging you is a cop out.... They should have made it right... Inform them that you will be sending it to a REAL smith and sending them the bill for the repair.... DO NOT LET THEM TRY TO FIX IT... If they messed it up the first time, who knows what kind of butcher job they will do to repair it... If they cut your dovetail wrong, there is not much that can be done.... I believe your "smith" owes you a new slide....

[Hawkmoon]

This sounds like a bad joke. Imagine taking a Ferrari Testarosa to a shop. When you come back, they tell you they won't charge you for changing the spark plugs because they blew up the engine while road testing the tune-up.

RIIIIIIIIGHT!

[1911Tuner]

Looks like the slide wasn't locked down in the mill vise, and when he made the initial cut, the downward force caused the slide to tip slightly, and the rear of the dovetail is shallower than the front. He either didn't catch it, and the dovetail end mill followed the same line...OR...he did realize it after he'd made the initial cut...and either figured that he could hide it or didn't want the floor of the cut to have a gap...or he couldn't make a dovetail cut work out...and went ahead with the cut.

I'd be a mite...dissatisfied if it were mine.

[John]

I'd be a mite...dissatisfied if it were mine.

Just a trifle, I would say!

[lhgdale]

Inform them that you will be sending it to a REAL smith and sending them the bill for the repair.... DO NOT LET THEM TRY TO FIX IT... If they messed it up the first time, who knows what kind of butcher job they will do to repair it...

That is exactly what I am going to do. I don't want them to even touch my gun again. I will send it back to Baer and have it done right. That is what I should have done in the first place but I was told marks outdoors employees only highly trained gunsmiths. :lm:

[radavis321]

Looks like he did't have his milling vise indicated square. & the slide not flat in the vise.I have been machining for thirty years & i have seen new guys out of high school do better than that.I think this company owes you more than not having to pay for a bad screw up.

[JWiley]

Sorry to see that.

You mentioned in your first post that Marks Outdoors is a Baer dealer. I would sent atleast the slide to Baer's with a letter (including a xerox of the reciept from Marks Outdoors) explaining your problems and asking that Baer fix it/make it right right (probably going to cost). I would also cc Marks Outdoors. And maybe the 'registered agent' of Marks Outdoors company.

If Marks Outdoors is a stocking dealer, Baer may fix your problems, back charge them and pull their dealership.

[lhgdale]

I would also cc Marks Outdoors. And maybe the 'registered agent' of Marks Outdoors company.


I sent the owner (Mark) some photos and an email explaining what all was damaged. I also asked what he was going to do about it. So I will just see if he returns my email.

[robk]

looks like someone did a no no on that front sight. looks like they tried to tap the sight in and missed and hit the sight blade. also looks like they must of pinned something under the blade and pushed it up at the rear end of the blade. i think i would going back and asking them what's up
rob k

[progunner1957]

I would go back to the shop that boogered it up and insist that they pay for the fix when it is sent to Baer to be done right.

No way should they get away with this!!!

[lhgdale]

Well, I called Baer today just to see if they had a chance to look at my gun. Karen talked to Les and he said my gun would be 3-4 more weeks. I guess they are busy around christmas. I am just glad it is in good hands now.

[AFH]

Tuner said it; if it were one of my Wilsons or EBs, I would feel....peevish....

Doc H. :cool: