Need help Identifying

[Redmanll34]

I would like to buy this Sistema, but I am not sure as to what model it would be considered, under the BATF C&R. Please refer to

http://northeastshooters.com/vbullet...ad.php?t=13220

For pictures and a better description of what the problem is.

Thank You
Tom

[mayagrafix]

No Joy - 404 page error

[pa_guns]

Hi

+1 on the 404 error

Bob

[DuckRyder]

Something is up with the way it parsed the URL.

I belive this is the correct one:

Sistema Thread on Northeast Shooters (http://northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=13220)

[Doran]

Most likely 1960 production. Most likely for govt sales due to the crest. I'm not well versed on C&R regulations but the pistol seems too new for a 50 yr cutoff. Others will have a clearer understanding of the rules. The stamp resembles those found on the latest imports from Lipsey's.

[pa_guns]

Hi

My *guess* is that it's ok for C&R since it's a "listed gun". The Yugo SKS's are all much newer than 50 years old, but since they are listed by name they are ok.

Anything (almost) is ok if it's >= 50 years old. Stuff that is newer than that is ok if it's listed.

There is a bunch of stuff on the list that got there for a variety of reasons. Some of it was well over 50 years old even when it was added to the list.

Bob

[Ericthenorse]

Argentine D.G.F.M. (FMAP) System Colt Model 1927 pistols, marked "Ejercito Argentino" bearing S/Ns less than 24501.
Argentine D.G.F.M. - (F.M.A.P.) System Colt model 1927, cal. 11.25mm commercial variations.

This is how they are listed on the BATF website....

[pa_guns]

Argentine D.G.F.M. (FMAP) System Colt Model 1927 pistols, marked "Ejercito Argentino" bearing S/Ns less than 24501.
Argentine D.G.F.M. - (F.M.A.P.) System Colt model 1927, cal. 11.25mm commercial variations.

This is how they are listed on the BATF website....

Hi

I am assuming that the pistol is the second one in the listing, since it does not have the military markings on it.

Bob

[Ericthenorse]

I find it interesting that they have limits on the military contract pistols, but not on the commercial models...

[Doran]

The crest usually signifies a govt sale but possibly to a small agency or small enough order to not justify making a dedicated roll stamp. Also possibly an over run pistol sold commercially or perhaps an over run slide used for a commercial sales.