Parts Replacement

[Todesengel]

Hi all, the fathers day sale on midway gave me a good reason to replace some parts on my Kimber Gold Combat. Here is a list of the parts I am going to replace and why:
Wilson Combat Bullet Proof Firing Pin 45 ACP (because it was cheap)
Wilson Combat Extra Power Firing Pin Return Spring (because it is time to replace it)
Wilson Combat Bullet Proof Firing Pin Stop 1911 70 Series 45 ACP Stainless (because the one on the gun has a little bit too much play)
Wilson Combat Bullet Proof Extractor 1911 70 Series 45 ACP Stainless Steel (to ensure reliability)
Wilson Combat Factory Plus Magazine Release Spring 1911 (I think it's time to replace it)
Ed Brown Extended Magazine Release 1911 Stainless Steel (because mine works roughly)
Cylinder & Slide Trigger Pull Set Tactical Match 1911 4-1/2 lb (to ensure reliability on the ingnition parts)
Cylinder & Slide Videki Long Trigger 1911 Aluminum (because I like the looks)

Any tips on the installation would be greatly appreciated (1911tuner :D).
How can I get a little lighter trigger pull than the 4.5 lbs?
Thanks in advance!

BTW, can I re-use the hammer strut pin I have in my gun now? forgot to order it :rolleyes:

[Dave Berryhill]

You should get a copy of Kuhnhausen's 1911 book Vol. 1

[Todesengel]

Thanks for the advice, I propably will! Is the Ed Brown Benchrest CD Rom any good?

[John]

Hi all, the fathers day sale on midway gave me a good reason to replace some parts on my Kimber Gold Combat. Here is a list of the parts I am going to replace and why:

Cylinder & Slide Trigger Pull Set Tactical Match 1911 4-1/2 lb (to ensure reliability on the ingnition parts)
Cylinder & Slide Videki Long Trigger 1911 Aluminum (because I like the looks)


These are crappy parts, you don't need them, after all they will give a 4.5 lbs only trigger. Pack them up and send them my way, so I can dispose of them properly.

LoL

[Todesengel]

These are crappy parts, you don't need them, after all they will give a 4.5 lbs only trigger. Pack them up and send them my way, so I can dispose of them properly.

LoL

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[1911Tuner]

Howdy Tod,

First thing I have to ask is...Why are you replacing the parts? I understand
wanting more durable parts in the gun...I do that on certain parts in certain guns as a matter of course...but in certain areas, you might be flirting with
disaster.

The next point that I need to make is that there's no such thing as a drop-in part. While it's true that most drop-in parts will do just that...it's best not
to count on it too heavily. They may very well drop in and work...but it doesn't mean that they're working correctly. They also may do just fine for a while, until they get a little wear...and things can go haywire rather suddenly. This goes double-triple for the hammer, sear, and disconnector. I had an interesting experience this past Monday with a High Road member who came to visit from afar. He had ordered Brown Hardcore parts for his Kimber and things didn't go as planned. We were able to get the
initial hammer followdown problem addressed via E-mail...for about 300 rounds.

When I took him to the range for a shootin' session, he got two followdowns
about halfway through the session. One to half-cock, and the next all the way. I checked it out, and got the hammer to follow on empty. I loaded up
a magazine with 3 rounds, and it dumped'em all in a blink. We had a good time playing with his machine pistol until we ran out of ammo...and then we came back here and fixed the problem.

You can wind up with anything from a nice, crisp trigger to a 2.5 pound, 2,000 RPM submachine gun...maybe held in one hand. Exciting stuff, but it does tend to frighten the spectators.

I intend to post a thread on the experience over on The High Road. I'll
cut and paste the link to it for all to read. There were several things that went wrong with the drop-in trigger group, and it's well worth being aware of
what can and does happen sometimes on these projects.

Stand by...Thread comin' soon to a forum near you!

Tuner

[John]

I intend to post a thread on the experience over on The High Road. I'll cut and paste the link to it for all to read.

Stand by...Thread comin' soon to a forum near you!

Tuner
Hey Tuner,

Why not post it here too? Or are you in some agreement with that forum, not to cross post to another one? Come on, give this new forum something to live with!

Rgds

[Todesengel]

Howdy Tuner!

I canceled the C&S Trigger pull set since I can't afford the cost of a gun smith right now. I really thought it would be a drop in set since C&S states following:

This set is specifically prepped and matched to give a 4.5 lb trigger pull with out any stoning of the sear or hammer. The sear spring may need to be properly tensioned for your specific pistol. Recommended for all applications.

I ordered some ammo instead :D

What about the other parts? On the firing pin stop I just remove a little material with a file till it fits perfect?
Can I do anything to the mag catch if the new one still works rough?

Thanks for the info!

[1911Tuner]

John said:

Hey Tuner,

Why not post it here too? Or are you in some agreement with that forum, not to cross post to another one? Come on, give this new forum something to live
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Sure John. It's just that the post would be a little long, and I didn't want to
use up your bandwidth over here without gettin' clearance from the brass
first. I'll write it up on a notepad and do a cut/paste and post it on both
places.

Tod,

A little later on today...hopefully...I'll make up a list of trigger group parts
that I've used that I've had the best results from without a lotta tedious
work required. A little prep and polish here and thare have netted some very
clean, crisp triggers in the 5-pound class...and could easily be taken to
4 pounds with just a little tweak here and there...which is my self-imposed minimum. None of my pistols have triggers that break lower than 5 pounds,
and I won't carry one that does. Just my personal preference.

Later on!

Tuner

[John]

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Sure John. It's just that the post would be a little long, and I didn't want to
use up your bandwidth over here without gettin' clearance from the brass
first. I'll write it up on a notepad and do a cut/paste and post it on both
places.

Tuner
Send it to me as an attachement in an e-mail, then I can post it in M1911.ORG and we'll add a thread with the proper link here.

Rgds

[Dave Berryhill]

The Tuner said something important about 1911s that you've got to understand:

"The next point that I need to make is that there's no such thing as a drop-in part. While it's true that most drop-in parts will do just that...it's best not
to count on it too heavily."

That point is critical with ignition parts and safeties. You need to either learn how to properly fit these parts or pay someone to do it for you.

[1911Tuner]

Ladies and laddies...Mr. Dave Berryhill. For those who are fortunate enough to have seen or handled his pistols firsthand, no introduction is needed. For
those who haven't...hit the link and go see. I'm a 1911 troubleshooter and repairman. Dave is one of the masters of the craft. It's a little like the difference between a local dirt-track racer and Richard Petty. If you can catch him away from his bench for a few minutes...pick his brain!

Cheers!

Tuner

[Dave Berryhill]

C'mon Tuner - you know as well as I that function is what it's all about. A pretty gun that won't run is nothing but an expensive club. When it comes to trouble-shooting, you da man!

[1911Tuner]

C'mon Tuner - you know as well as I that function is what it's all about. A pretty gun that won't run is nothing but an expensive club. When it comes to trouble-shooting, you da man!

Nawww...If I was da man, I'd be rich and famous! :D Besides, you and Ted
got that function thing pretty well nailed down if I may say so... :cool:

Gotta go run the Collies! Later on!

Tuner

[Dave Berryhill]

..If I was da man, I'd be rich and famous! :D

Really? How many rich gunsmiths do you know? ;)

[1911Tuner]

Really? How many rich gunsmiths do you know? ;)


I'll have you know that I know three pistolsmiths who became moderately wealthy by practicing their trade. Thing is...they were multi-millionaires when they started. :p

Be of good cheer and mindful of your six!

Tuner