Let's see some .38 Super Government models.

[larry starling]

It seems that .38 super's are hot right now lets see some pictures of those 5 inch Government models. Here is one of mine a Blued Government model Mk IV series 80. Uncatalogued model 02570E. Lets see them Guy's. :)
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n202/larry0810/Project10.png

[paul45]

Really nice, Larry.....I will try to take pics of mine and post. Since I am so cheap, I have to get a buddy to bring his camera over though...... :o

[larry starling]

Really nice, Larry.....I will try to take pics of mine and post. Since I am so cheap, I have to get a buddy to bring his camera over though...... :o
Oh my! To funny....And thanks. ;)

[swampthang]

How would you guys compare the recoil and accuracy of the 38 super rounds to the 45. All these "super" threads lately has got me thinking...............!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[larry starling]

How would you guys compare the recoil and accuracy of the 38 super rounds to the 45. All these "super" threads lately has got me thinking...............!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All of the ammo I have seen or used has been +p and other than the sharper report the recoil hasn't been all that unmanageable. I'm not recoil sensitive and two me its not bad. Accuracy is pretty good about the same if not better than .45..... :)

[Hunter]

My NRM 1991A1 in stainless

[daveohno]

How would you guys compare the recoil and accuracy of the 38 super rounds to the 45. All these "super" threads lately has got me thinking...............!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The super has like Hunter has said a sharp recoil but less than the 45. You get back on target pretty fast. They are a hoot to shoot. You gotta get one, they're a ball. Here's my only one .......so far. :D :D I'm ordering some pearllite grips (stocks) with custom laser etched artwork on them to complete the "son of pimpgun" effect.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/daveohno/Super38DSCN0333.jpg

[daveohno]

Oh by the way, Larry and Hunter, those are fine looking pistols you got there!

[larry starling]

Oh by the way, Larry and Hunter, those are fine looking pistols you got there!
Thanks Daveohno not a bad example you have yourself. Went to a favorite store today and Paul45 scored a SS Gun site. Man I'm jealous I think I'm going to get one of those in the near future.... :o

[daveohno]

Larry, Bud's has them from time to time. And the price is pretty good. Thing is, you have to order and just get it that way, unless you happen to be in KY.

[Mick_In_Texas]

Well, y'all... larry, Hunter, I think swampthang, have seen these auction photos; I'm excited to have bought a NEW Colt (I have a 1918 USGI 1911), and I chose the Colt over the less expensive SA (I have two SAs, as well) in .38 Super for four reasons: 1)the Springer was Parked; I had a Parked Springer, and have a Parked Rock Island, and didn't want another; 2)I've never had a new Colt 1911/A1, and the first 1911A1 I ever got to handle and field strip, lube, and reassemble was an old (approx 15-20 yrs) Colt Government Model Series 70 in blued, and it "sealed" my love for the platform (I already loved the .45 ACP from my Ruger P90, but, to me, the "real" ".45 (semi-)Auto is a JMB-designed, 1911 platform; 3)my primary carry gun is a Springer Mil-Spec with roughly the same finish as this Colt (polished flats on the slide, natural everywhere else mostly), and it's a good carry and shooting and cleaning finish; and 4)I've fallen under the .38 Super spell, myself, for the same reason I love the .45 ACP and the 1911--they're effective, durable, functional, reliable, proven, American-conceived, and feel/shoot (platform fits my hand and eye; .45, the round I enjoy and shoot way more than any other I have or have ever had) better than anything personally I've felt/shot... and have a loooooong history, yet, still work for the 21st century and beyond!!!

I have heard that the .38 Super has a very flat trajectory, similar to our .45 ACP... and is an effective defensive round. There had to be some reason that Colt and JMB developed it in the late 20s, in a world of .32 and .38 revolvers and pistols, along with the 9mms and even the old .38 Auto one of the moderators here told me about in another thread. JMB designed a 9mm version of his Ol' Slabsides for Browning (the still beloved High Power); the fact that the .38 Super has survived and is still available, does indicate something to us. Think of all the calibers that are around that are relatively recent: 10mm, .357 Sig Sauer (Texas DPS thing, goofy round in my opinion having handled some ammo for them), .45 GAP, 9mm Makarov, .40 Smith & Wesson, and the recent innovation, the .50 GI... For some folks, these are all fine. But, while I have a 9mm and a .357 Mag/.38 Special, I go for .45 ACP... 5 pistols to 1... and I believe I will like the .38 Super. I KNOW I'll like it in a Colt, and I KNOW I'll like it in the platform it was originally designed for, the 1911/A1.

Y'all all take care and be safe. Have a good weekend, folks.
Mick
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/Mick_In_Texas/362840d5.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/Mick_In_Texas/1ec5165c.jpg
(It will probably be mid-month before I actually HAVE this one... I'll take some better photos of it for y'all, of course, y'all know me!-M)

[swampthang]

Thanks and real nice colts, Kind of reminds me of the old saying " I never met a colt I didnt like" Its getting real hard to keep my word and not get any guns for a while.

[Mick_In_Texas]

Thanks and real nice colts, Kind of reminds me of the old saying " I never met a colt I didnt like" Its getting real hard to keep my word and not get any guns for a while.

I KNOW that feeling!!! On this .38 Super Colt... I am RE-promising myself AFTER I get this one, that I will not get anymore guns for a while... I will NOT. Say it ten times, Mick... Hah!!! That was a good one, swamp!!!

Like your quote, above, and your signature. Personal experience/3 times: superior personal firepower, keep a crime from being committed against me and/or my loved one, which is peace to me, Bro. No shots fired, BUT, no crimes committed. I can't imagine how much more terrified one perpetrator would've been, if that muzzle pointed at his forehead had been a .45 instead of a 9mm!!! Reckon, really, he was about as terrified (and thankful he was allowed to run away, still alive) as he could be, caliber notwithstanding.

You take care. I'm going to try to do some research week after next, after my NEXT business trip next week, all week (been having to do a lot of that, lately, for some odd reason), on the .38 Super.

Mick

[paul45]

I have heard that the .38 Super has a very flat trajectory, similar to our .45 ACP... May I say that they are not similar....a .45 drops like a rock.

[larry starling]

May I say that they are not similar....a .45 drops like a rock.
Like you dropping cash beating me out on a certain Colt?????? :D

[paul45]

Like you dropping cash beating me out on a certain Colt?????? :DI have learned the hard way to never point out anything I like, anything scarce or NIB, when around you....... :scared:

[Mick_In_Texas]

May I say that they are not similar....a .45 drops like a rock.
Won't contest that this may be true; but, defensive range on a handgun is from 0 to roughly 50 yards, max; after that you need a rifle/long gun, and the test range for Texas CHL, is a max of 25 yards. Out from that distance to 1000 yards, that's for a way longer barrel length than our beloved handguns, I hold.

Now, I read somewhere online that the .45 1911 was good for 250 yards: but, I really and truly do NOT (heavy on the NOT!) believe it. You'd sure be pushing your dang luck there! That is more of a hunting (deer, especially!) range, and that means rifle range... no one I know who hunts deer or other game, formerly including my dad, want to take a shot over 200-250 yards, even with a RIFLE! Out to 250, okay; over that, chances for a clean, one-shot drop of the game, start dimenising rapidly, and I sure don't expect ANY of my handguns to perform at THAT range! My ex-wife DID drop a 6-point buck, whitetail, at roughly 250 yards years ago... in a .243 Winchester rifle with a scope... but her dad and the other hunters, didn't even SEE him at that range. My ex-stepfather was so impressed, he GAVE her that rifle...

Defensive, she carried a .380 Auto, AMT, ss, for defense at leaving her work at night, when we were married in Odessa and she had to spend late hours working for a CPA there. I bought it for her. That was a "gut gun", as her boss had once deterred an attacker with a .22LR pistol. The 22 is okay, but, I didn't want her to get in a situation for a potential robbery/rape, with anything less than the equivalent of a .38.

It's like the bullet speed on a .45 ACP: 930 fps is considered way slow, nowadays... but, at 25 yards to face-to-face, what difference does it make? No human can run 930 fps, much less 1200 or 1400 fps. I don't know what my 9 or my .38 Special +P hollowpoints in the Ruger GP100 travel at... but, the defensive range for most handguns, is small. Agree that anything over 25-30 yds, you may need to start being concerned about bullet drop; and I'm in a discussion with my primary dealer in re: .223 Remington (5.56 mm NATO) vs. .30 caliber (7.62x39mm, 7.62x51mm, .30-06 Springfield)... and .22LR. For ALL situations with a long gun... I favor a .30 caliber. Defensive, putting food on the table in a bind, whatever. Brush, you know, obstructions... range...

But, face to face, defensively, give me a .45 ACP SJHP, .38 Special SJHP in a .357 Mag revolver, or 12ga shotgun with aluminum 00 buckshot/low powder charge, 'cause in a situation (FROM EXPERIENCE!) like that, you're pretty much going to be face to face, or within 0-30 feet from the perpetrator, especially in an apartment, like I'm in; house, same situation, basically. And I do NOT want to ever have to fire a round in defense, and if I ever have to, I definitely don't want any innocent bystanders/"third-party victims" to be harmed.

JMB got it right on the .45 ACP and Ol' Slabsides. The .38 Super, is new to me. I don't know about it as yet...

You, sir, take care and be safe and have a great weekend.
Mick

[tailgunner]

Here are my three: a Super Stallion, a Colt Custom and a Gov't Model:

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/5711/38superfy3.jpg

[paul45]

Won't contest that this may be true; but, defensive range on a handgun is from 0 to roughly 50 yards,Oh, of course....no contest! My point being that the standard for "bullet drop" is 100yds. In 100yds, a .45acp will drop like a rock.....a .38 super will drop far less. Good Luck with your Colt...

[Mick_In_Texas]

Oh, of course....no contest! My point being that the standard for "bullet drop" is 100yds. In 100yds, a .45acp will drop like a rock.....a .38 super will drop far less. Good Luck with your Colt...

Thanks, Paul, and good point for those who are in competition! I see what you're saying about bullet drop on the .45 now... IF you were in competition or for some reason were in a situation where you needed or wanted to fire a handgun out to 100 yds, nice to know! I think we're on the same page on that range: this is why, when a year or so ago, I read that a 1911A1 (supposedly in .45 ACP, the little article didn't say, although it was referring to the "military issue sidearm") could hit a human-size and human-configuration target with point-and-aim at 250 yards. Um... Heck, Paul, can even the BEST of us with GREAT eyesight, even SEE clearly a 6' or less target THAT far with HANDGUN??? That's 2-1/2 football fields, and for those of us who've ever been on a football field...

The exception might be a handgun chambered for the .22 LR cartridge: don't know about the bullet drop there, but, it's pretty common knowledge that a .22 can go for about a mile and still be injurious if not lethal. But, being little, it's a fast bullet. Real fast... Reminds me of that .17 HMR or whatever it is that came around several years ago... tiny projectile, really travelling very fast. Interesting, ballistics.

On the retired gunsmith buddy's personal range on his land near my dad's, we have to compete on July 4th with our handguns at 25 yards. Nearly EVERYONE is challenged by that... LoL... the Texas CHL, that is the last of the three ranges we have to qualify at. Ol' buddy always wins his own small prizes, 'cause he uses a 6 or 8" barrel .357 Mag, rather than me with my 5" .45s and the others with their 3-5" handguns of various calibers (mine, always .45 ACPs). Hee hee... Next year, I may take that ol' Colt .38 Super out there, and see what those folks think... balloons aren't too bad, they give you a little bit of a target; last time, he had this bizarre little rotating iron target thingie, stuck in the ground, so we had to shoot "down" rather than from our regular stances out at pretty much eye-level. That thing was also dark grey, against the brown dirt and the black tires he has for a berm. He was the ONLY one that could hit that dang thing consistently with five-round runs.

Y'all take care and be safe. I'm looking forward to continuing to learn about our beloved .45, AND starting to learn about our also-beloved .38 Super!
Mick

[Mick_In_Texas]

Wow, thank you for sharing... you've got quite a collection there, types, finishes, barrel lengths... I share your joy in having these fine pistols!!! I like the Government Model the best, in the ss; it's real similar to the one I am getting. But, they're all beautiful.

You and yours take care and be safe.
Mick

[tailgunner]

Thanks Mick! Good luck with your new Colt!

[paul45]

Mick.....try these defensive rounds out....
http://www.natchezss.com/ammo.cfm?

contentID=productDetail&ammoGroup=2&brand=CB&prodID=CB38X125/20
and for practice, I have had good luck with these. For some reason, my 3 .38s don't like Remington...
http://www.natchezss.com/ammo.cfm?contentID=productDetail&ammoGroup=2&brand=AU&prodID=AU1E382112

[Mick_In_Texas]

Mick.....try these defensive rounds out....
http://www.natchezss.com/ammo.cfm?

contentID=productDetail&ammoGroup=2&brand=CB&prodID=CB38X125/20
and for practice, I have had good luck with these. For some reason, my 3 .38s don't like Remington...
http://www.natchezss.com/ammo.cfm?contentID=productDetail&ammoGroup
=2&brand=AU&prodID=AU1E382112

Wow, paul... thank you! I've heard of Natchez... I've got it bookmarked, now, thanks to you! I'll check that other link, too. I'll check this second link you provided us, too... don't think I've used Remington in a long while, but, this is GOOD to know, when I get my Colt. Brands, can make a difference.

Speaking of that... my Ruger, my Springer, my Rock, and my USGI Colt, have been the ONLY pistols, on my gunsmith buddy's range, that are 100% reliable. He and his relatives and friends, are big into re-loading, which is good, I'm into recycling and conservation; but, I think sometimes, their function probs are due to the re-loads. The USGI Colt didn't have a problem with them, even in lead bullets; but, overall, for defense, give me factory brands that work in the gun.

I'm checking your links now. Thank you sir. If you were a Marine, I also thank you for your military service, sir. You and yours take care and be safe.
Mick

[larry starling]

Mick, Thats a big thumbs up for Natchez. Super fast service and very fair prices. Now that you remind me I need some more .38 Super Ammo.... ;)

[daveohno]

Have you ever had problems with that Aguila ammo? My super 38 needs a push on the slide from time to time with that ammo. It doesn't allow the slide to go forward all the way from time to time. Seems like they're out of spec or something? But the price of that super 38 ammo is excellent. No problems with Natchez on their prices or their delivery. Fast and good prices.

[larry starling]

Have you ever had problems with that Aguila ammo? My super 38 needs a push on the slide from time to time with that ammo. It doesn't allow the slide to go forward all the way from time to time. Seems like they're out of spec or something? But the price of that super 38 ammo is excellent. No problems with Natchez on their prices or their delivery. Fast and good prices.
Dave I haven't had any trouble with Aguila. But FWIW I try to stick with Remington UMC usually its the same price as the Aguila.... ;)

[Mick_In_Texas]

Mick, Thats a big thumbs up for Natchez. Super fast service and very fair prices. Now that you remind me I need some more .38 Super Ammo.... ;)

Actually figured out a way to get the money order on a weekend, today, and I mailed my payment today. The seller is in Missouri, so, should have payment by this coming Friday, if not sooner. They ship USPS Next Day, so, may have this latest gun by mid-week, the week of Oct 11-15. My FFL's shop is close enough that I can pick it up during the week at lunch. Whew.

REALLY appreciate the information on ammo and ammo suppliers, here, and the fine shared .38 Supers some of y'all have. Soon as I get the Colt in my hands and home, I'll try to take some really good photos of it of my own to share. I'm getting better; it's hard to get a gun outside in the open, in an apartment complex, but, I've done it, by putting it in the case or my range bag, and making sure no one's looking over my patio fence. Anyways, digress, gotta be missing all you fine folks until Thu or Fri night, but, did want to say, MUCH APPRECIATED, and all this good advice is noted and recorded for future use. I'll be needing some good .38 Super this month...

Y'all take care and be safe.
Mick

[paul45]

Dave I haven't had any trouble with Aguila. But FWIW I try to stick with Remington UMC usually its the same price as the Aguila.... ;)I have a 1970 .38 commander that hates Remington.....it won't group at all.....but does outstandingly well with Aquila. I like it alot.

[larry starling]

I have a 1970 .38 commander that hates Remington.....it won't group at all.....but does outstandingly well with Aquila. I like it alot.
Lets see some pictures Paul I know you have a few .38 supers.... ;)

[paul45]

Lets see some pictures Paul I know you have a few .38 supers.... ;)Don't have a pic of my gov't yet though....just the commanders.

[Mick_In_Texas]

GOT it TODAY, y'all! She is beautiful. BEAUTIFUL.

Model 02091, NIB, two mags, grips much MUCH better than my SA Mil-Spec (the Colt's are keepers), no barrel bushing probs, and I can live with the Series 80 firing pin block, 'cause THIS beauty has the LONG (1911-type) trigger and a FLAT MSH, OEM!!! It just FEELS different than my Rock, my Springers... I LOVE that on the right frame, just above the grip, it has "Colt's PT FA MFG CO HARTFORD CONN USA" engraved there, linking it directly to her "grandmother", my USGI Colt 1911, 1918 production run... In my 52 years, I've never had, handled, and don't even remember SEEING a NEW Colt 1911A1... and THIS one is mine. There are many like her, but this one is MINE. (United States Marine Corps, forgive me.) I had a problem paying for her, but she is WELL worth it. In the FFL today, heard another experienced gun owner and bow enthusiast tell me the .38 Super is a GOOD round: he said what y'all have, that it's got a nice flat trajectory, and the bullet speed cuts some of the drop at distance... he likes it, said .38 Super is starting to gain popularity in competition shooting. Regardless, this one is a BEAUTY.

Here she is, my own photos:
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/Mick_In_Texas/47392d5c.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/Mick_In_Texas/47392d5c-1.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/Mick_In_Texas/82ca22be.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/Mick_In_Texas/82ca22be-1.jpg

Gotta get ammo, gotta get ammo... LoL... This one feels (unloaded so far) as right in my hand, or more so, than ANY of my current 1911 platforms. If she's reliable on the range, she'll be carried. Hee hee, she fits my 3 1911 holsters, of course!

Y'all all take care and be safe.
Mick
:lh:

[swampthang]

Finally!!! good luck with her Mick

[Mick_In_Texas]

Finally!!! good luck with her Mick

Hee hee, AMEN on FINALLY! The seller was GREAT. They trusted me, and this one is a beauty! Like my USGI 1918 Colt, I just sit here and HOLD her... for me, like all my 1911 platforms, she FITS ME. I've been "targeting" (pointing unloaded at point of aim) many things in my apartment between typing, and she just FEELS GOOD. If she functions as reliably as her "grandmother", I'm going to be really, really, REALLY happy! Our host, Sir John, makes the distinction between USGIs and Colts, but, technically, I am also a "Colt dude" with TWO: the USGI, and the Government .38 Super.

I notice the three-dot combat sights on the Colt .38 S are particularly NICE... Hmmm... Beloved as my Mil-Spec is, the front sight on the Colt has a bigger dot than the rear sight dots, and this is subtle, but WONDERFUL. I just now noticed this... IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE. NICE. My right eye is pretty much normal; my left, very near-sighted, but, I practice without my glasses (other than non-scrip safety glasses due to defensive response considerations). Dang, NOW I like Colt OEM three-dot combats, TOO!!!

If I ever get another .45 ACP... I'm thinking, COLT. We'll see how this one performs... I do know it was the "original" 1911 in .45 ACP. Got a guy wanting to buy my beloved (ALL my guns are beloved) Ruger P90, though. If he gives me what I ask, I may set up a separate "fund" for a new gun... Between the USGI and the new one, pending firing range/shooting on the lands... I'm LIKING Colts, too, now, not to degrade my reliable Springers, RIA, Taurus, and Rugers.

Sir, YOU be safe and take care. Hang in.
Mick

[Rusty Guns]

Hey Mick congrats on the new Pistola, She does look like a real lady.
That 38 sup seems to be up and comming.
Hopefully the price of rounds will go down some.
The 38 Super is an old round that almost died out , but thanks to competition shooting it is comming back.
Good Luck with Her, she is avery nice looking pistol

Rusty

[Mick_In_Texas]

Hey Mick congrats on the new Pistola, She does look like a real lady.
That 38 sup seems to be up and comming.
Hopefully the price of rounds will go down some.
The 38 Super is an old round that almost died out , but thanks to competition shooting it is comming back.
Good Luck with Her, she is avery nice looking pistol

Rusty

Thank you! May not get to your e-mail until Fri or Sat, now, but will answer your questions presented here in PM... you have some BEAUTIFUL ones, yourself, and you did good on the photo attachment! This Colt... My USGI is wonderful, from 1918; but, other than the guy at work's old Commander from 15-20 years ago, I've NEVER handled a modern Colt. This thing is SOLID. Unloaded but with mag inserted, it weighs about the same or a little more than my Springers or my RIA, fully loaded and with rounds chambered... I'm just in awe of it. Now, I'm panting for a Colt's 1911A1 (SLAP! SLAP! SLAP SELF!) in the good ol' fave round of mine, .45 ACP, I mean a new one... But, for the time, I'll resist. I've got ammo coming in the .38 Super; it's 130 grain, +P, FMJ, but before I shoot her, I'm going to see if my FFL has something in the range of 115-125 grain standard load, FMJ. I'm working on a second set of my Texas Star faux ivory grips for her. Although, the Colt's black rubber, are every bit as good as the aftermarket Hogue double-diamond rubber ones I bought a couple of years ago... All my guns are quality; I love all of them; but this is the first new "major brand name" one I've had (SA is kinda in the middle between RIA and Colt; my Rugers, higher notch, my Taurus, good gun, just not high-end in price) in many years. This Government in ss is like a solid block of machined stainless steel... I was impressed with my SA Mil-Spec over a year ago, but I'm REALLY impressed with this thing. If she functions and shoots as good as she feels and handles empty, she was WELL worth my struggle with payment.

I also have noticed the 3-dot sights on the Colt are subtly better than the Springer version... The front has a larger dot, than the two on the rear sight; this girl is REALLY easy to get on target, much more so than the Mil-Spec: it's a seemingly minor/small thing, that so far (not firing, but, still valid I think when I get a chance to fire her) seems to make getting on POA about twice (roughly) as quick. She's way easier than my other handguns to get on POA, with both eyes open, too. I've already figured that out. I like to try to practice with both eyes open and without my glasses; I'm right handed, and my right eye is pretty normal compared to my extremely near-sighted left. But with my other guns, this has been a problem; with the Colt 3-dots, that has been drastically reduced because of the configuration, at least just pointing at things around the apartment with it empty. The front sight, in normal indoor lighting, stands out MUCH more than say my Mil-Spec--even with the flourescent overlay paint--or my P90 and Taurus. Much more. That has been and continues to be very interesting. I'm anxious to shoot her, more than maybe any other one I've got when they were first bought, except my USGI Colt.

Anyways, it is good to know that another classic JMB/1911 caliber is on the rise. He just got it right all FOUR times: 1911 in .45 ACP; 1911A1 in 45 ACP; 1911A1 in .38 Super; and 1911/A1 in 9mm (Hi-Power). Amazing family of firearms, and MY personal favorites and preference.

You be safe and take care, my Bro.
Mick

[paul45]

Here is a somewhat unusual .38 gov't. The box is serialed to the pistol, labeled a MKIV, but the slide has the NRM's. It is enhanced also....
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k57/paul10mm/38ENHANCED.jpg

[larry starling]

Here is a somewhat unusual .38 gov't. The box is serialed to the pistol, labeled a MKIV, but the slide has the NRM's. It is enhanced also....
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k57/paul10mm/38ENHANCED.jpg
Great pictures Paul. How about the items you picked up this week????? Oh and by the way have we shot that one yet? :o

[Mick_In_Texas]

Great pictures Paul. How about the items you picked up this week????? Oh and by the way have we shot that one yet? :o

I shot my Govt Model .38 Super today... and paul, I hope you have every bit as good a luck as I did: she was 100% right out of the blue Colt's case!!! 50 rounds, WWB 130 grain, FMJ, +P... no malfunctions, no burps, no problems. In fact, on the very first magazine, she put 5 of 8 rounds in a group about 2"!!! And with me not really being able to "see" well (shoulda took plain safety glasses, not my reading prescriptions)!!! The dang holes were like on top of or linked together!!! Had a heck of a muzzle flash with the +Ps, though, louder than the two .45s I was shooting... but, kick, muzzle climb and rotation, about the same, which is minimal. OEM black rubber double-diamond checkered grips, quite comfortable for 50-round string... just a BEAUTIFUL weapon. Just beautiful. I'm really, really proud of her, NOW, for sure!

Next time, I'll see how she likes SJHP. If she does, then, THIS one will give my three .45 1911s some serious competition for holster time!!! Her accuracy out to 30 yds is very good... I pushed her a little on that. She puts 'em where you point 'em. She functioned like clockwork. Something interesting I shared in the other thread: here's a couple of as best as I could do photos of the powder markings on the muzzle... correspond to the pattern of the huge muzzle flashes I was getting off every round:
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/Mick_In_Texas/bb834365.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/Mick_In_Texas/3c7ef95b.jpg
Haven't ever seen anything like this, really. Regardless, the controllability was good. I am very glad I GOT this one, NOW.

paul, YOURS looks much like mine... although, mine's a straight up model 02091, Colt Govt in ss and .38 Super. I don't reckon you'll have any disappointments with that one! She's a real beauty. I'm always apprehensive when firing a new one the first time, but, so far... NONE have let me down, and the Colts--both my Govt in .38 Super, and her grandmother, the 1918 USGI 1911--are 100%, new or 88 years old. No difference.

Y'all take care and be safe.
Mick

[larry starling]

I shot my Govt Model .38 Super today... and paul, I hope you have every bit as good a luck as I did: she was 100% right out of the blue Colt's case!!! 50 rounds, WWB 130 grain, FMJ, +P... no malfunctions, no burps, no problems. In fact, on the very first magazine, she put 5 of 8 rounds in a group about 2"!!! And with me not really being able to "see" well (shoulda took plain safety glasses, not my reading prescriptions)!!! The dang holes were like on top of or linked together!!! Had a heck of a muzzle flash with the +Ps, though, louder than the two .45s I was shooting... but, kick, muzzle climb and rotation, about the same, which is minimal. OEM black rubber double-diamond checkered grips, quite comfortable for 50-round string... just a BEAUTIFUL weapon. Just beautiful. I'm really, really proud of her, NOW, for sure!

Next time, I'll see how she likes SJHP. If she does, then, THIS one will give my three .45 1911s some serious competition for holster time!!! Her accuracy out to 30 yds is very good... I pushed her a little on that. She puts 'em where you point 'em. She functioned like clockwork. Something interesting I shared in the other thread: here's a couple of as best as I could do photos of the powder markings on the muzzle... correspond to the pattern of the huge muzzle flashes I was getting off every round:
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/Mick_In_Texas/bb834365.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/Mick_In_Texas/3c7ef95b.jpg
Haven't ever seen anything like this, really. Regardless, the controllability was good. I am very glad I GOT this one, NOW.

paul, YOURS looks much like mine... although, mine's a straight up model 02091, Colt Govt in ss and .38 Super. I don't reckon you'll have any disappointments with that one! She's a real beauty. I'm always apprehensive when firing a new one the first time, but, so far... NONE have let me down, and the Colts--both my Govt in .38 Super, and her grandmother, the 1918 USGI 1911--are 100%, new or 88 years old. No difference.

Y'all take care and be safe.
Mick
Great news about your Colt Mick. what brand of ammo did you use? The first time I shot a .38 super I was hooked. I don't know if it was the sharper report of the rounds when shot or what. If you love the .38 super you need to get a Delta Elite next. 10mm is a blast also.... ;)

[daveohno]

Hide your wallet, Larry's at it with the Jedi (Colti) mind tricks! You're doomed, he's been pestering me about that 10mm since I said the super 38 is a hoot to shoot. Woe is us, we are all destined to be penniless and Colted to the eyeballs! :D

[larry starling]

Hide your wallet, Larry's at it with the Jedi (Colti) mind tricks! You're doomed, he's been pestering me about that 10mm since I said the super 38 is a hoot to shoot. Woe is us, we are all destined to be penniless and Colted to the eyeballs! :D
Hey that's not a bad thing is it Dave? :)

[daveohno]

Well, I am kind of partial to food, I get hungry every so often. Not to mention all the Dunkin Donuts Coffee I drink and the Maxwell House I keep at home.

[larry starling]

Well, I am kind of partial to food, I get hungry every so often. Not to mention all the Dunkin Donuts Coffee I drink and the Maxwell House I keep at home.
Roger that...I'm partial to krispie kremes..... :scared:

[daveohno]

AAAAHhHHHHHHHhHHHhHH, donuts! :eek: :scared: I am fighting the Battle of the Bulge over here! The only donuts (doughnuts) I eat are from Clydes. They have the best (IMO) cake doughnuts around. The Clydes guy stops at work every Friday night and drops off about 5 to 10 boxes of assorted fattening treats for us to "pig" out on. Every now and then I'll eat a Coffee Cake Muffin. I love sweet stuff, so I try to avoid them most of the time. My diet is the worst that you've ever seen. Working the midnight shift limits your dining options.

[White]

Here is my Colt Super. I wish my state was not so anal with Colts.

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e342/dongiliberti/DSCN0112.jpg

[larry starling]

AAAAHhHHHHHHHhHHHhHH, donuts! :eek: :scared: I am fighting the Battle of the Bulge over here! The only donuts (doughnuts) I eat are from Clydes. They have the best (IMO) cake doughnuts around. The Clydes guy stops at work every Friday night and drops off about 5 to 10 boxes of assorted fattening treats for us to "pig" out on. Every now and then I'll eat a Coffee Cake Muffin. I love sweet stuff, so I try to avoid them most of the time. My diet is the worst that you've ever seen. Working the midnight shift limits your dining options.
Yea I travel alot and I must admit my eating habits aint the best either.Heck one gun tore I use to go to the owner always would try and fatten Paul45 and me up. There always was a pot of coffee on and his wife always had a fresh baked cake sitting there for the regulars...... :scared: P.S FWIW neither of us need to be fatten up anymore than we already are.... :lm:

[paul45]

Here is my Colt Super. I wish my state was not so anal with Colts.

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e342/dongiliberti/DSCN0112.jpgHey!! another enhanced with NRM's. Not all that common....Very nice!!

[Mick_In_Texas]

Hide your wallet, Larry's at it with the Jedi (Colti) mind tricks! You're doomed, he's been pestering me about that 10mm since I said the super 38 is a hoot to shoot. Woe is us, we are all destined to be penniless and Colted to the eyeballs! :D
dave, you got that right! I'm bound and determined, despite the Series 80 firing pin block... that if I get another 1911A1... it's gonna be a Colt's.

.38 Super IS a hoot to shoot!!! I love the .45 ACP... but, the performance out of the Blue Box, with the +P FMJ, was amazing. Even with my "sight challenges"... that Government, put 'em side by side, basically... actually, rule of thumb estimation, prob less than 2" circle... clean. Flat trajectory. Extreme muzzle flash with the +Ps, but, like my .45s, not much recoil, only muzzle climb up and to the right, but, not much.

I LOVE this Government in .38 Super. Much as I love .45 ACP... I'm impressed. Different from 9mm, .38 Special, .38 Special +P, .357 Mag... Plus, it's in a 1911/A1 platform, and that too is an advantage for my tastes! I can see why the caliber is "coming back". History aside, it's a dang good round.

Y'all all take care and be safe.
Mick

[White]

Hey!! another enhanced with NRM's. Not all that common....Very nice!!

Thanks, I had an opportunity to pick up another one right before it came off the DOJ list here in California. I lost track of when it's CA permit expired. My local gun dealer also had the SS enhanced version. He wanted 900 dollars for it so I passed on it. Now I wish I would have pick up another :(

[larry starling]

For some odd reason I like the Enhanced models Colt made.... :D

[Mick_In_Texas]

Well...

Was fortunate enough to get another set of the hand-made faux ivory Texas Star grips for my ss Govt Model 1991A1 in .38 Super:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/Mick_In_Texas/17059a81.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d54/Mick_In_Texas/17059a81-1.jpg

While the black rubberish double diamond Colt's OEM grips are the best I've ever gotten on a new 1911 platform... I've had a set of these on my SA ss Mil-Spec for a good while, and they've been very durable as well as very attractive on a stainless steel gun. This guy makes some good grips... I wanted another set for the Govt Model... Hey, I'm a Texas boy, and they look GOOD on stainless steel.

Y'all all take care and be safe. Have a great weekend, me, I NEED this weekend...
Mick