Remington Rand Employee Demo Model

[flyfisher]

My grandfather was given a Remington Rand employee demo model during WWII (around '43). I am trying to get a rough idea of what it worth. It is number 107 (no prefix).

Each side of the slide has a spot where the finish was polished out when some entraving was removed. Other than that, the finish is in ver good condition. It has probably been shot a total of 30 times.

Any help would be much appreciated.

[1911Tuner]

Wow...If that thing is original, it might worth a mint.

This is a question for dsk.

Paging Dr. Kamm! Paging Dr. Dana Kamm! You're needed in the consultation room!

[wichaka]

Give Lowell Pauli a call, he's the pres. of the Colt Collectors Assoc., or was. He's got a collection that is unreal.........proto-type stuff, some of the original test pistols, .......you name it he's got it. If you want his number, PM or email me.

[Ty Moore]

Hi FlyFisher,
The first thing to do is try and determine what year the pistol was manufactured. Since there are multiple slide legends and different machining techniques used by Remington Rand from 1942 to 1945 this is possible.

If you visit my site you will see there is a ID Pages section, look at slide markings and determine which one you have (T1, T2, or T3). If T3 do you have curved milling marks on the slide?

Also does the finish on slide and frame match? Are there any inspection marks?

First thing is the authentication process, the above mentioned will halp there.

My site is at www.1911info.com AKA - CoolGunSite.com. I can be reached at tymoore122@hotmail.com.

I don’t hang at this site, but someone said you were in need on Rem Rand help and that is my area of interest. Feel free to email me.

Good luck.
Cheers,
Ty

[flyfisher]

Thanks for the quick response. I was able to locate Lowell, it sounds like he really knows his stuff.

[dsk]

Hey Ty,

Welcome to the forum! I figure if anybody could smell a Remington Rand thread from miles away it was you. ;)

Flyfisher, I agree that more information (and possibly pictures) is needed to authenticate this pistol. The problem with "lunchbox", pre-production and toolroom examples is that they were never properly documented, and very little is known about the few ones that exist aside from what's been observed by collectors. There are tons of fakes that are often passed off as such as well. You haven't said if your grandfather is still with us, but if he is getting him to write down his story of how he got ahold of the pistol might have some future provenance.

[1911Tuner]

Dana said:

I agree that more information (and possibly pictures) is needed to authenticate this pistol. The problem with "lunchbox", pre-production and toolroom examples is that they were never properly documented...
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Hmph! Makes no never mind to me! A Rand in that kinda shape? I want it! :D

[Ty Moore]

Hi Dana! yup, like a fine wine.......Rem Rand the official pistol manufacturer of WWII! :D

Fly sent me some very good (BIG) images, it is the real deal. It has later production characteristics (post 1944).

Cheers,
Ty

[flyfisher]

Unfortunately, my grandfather hasn't been around for several years. He lived in Syracuse and was a chaplain in the army during WWII (at Fort Drum f/k/a Pine Camp). The rand was given to him by an officer of the company named Freeman. My father remebers this was early '45 as he was just getting back from the navy himself.

[Doran]

Could you post some pictures? Thanks.

[flyfisher]

Here, assuming I followed the directions properly, are a couple of pictures. I took these quickly just a few days ago. You can see a spot on each side that has been polished to remove some engraving my grandfather added after becoming paranoid his guns would be stolen.

I believe I will be selling the pistol as soon as I figure out the best time and way to do this. One person has recommended auctionarms.com.

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