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Epags
4th July 2006, 03:16
Has anyone ever seen this problem before (see photo)? It has suddenly developed on a Colt 1911 Mk 4.Series 70.
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g164/epags/breach.jpg

The loads shot have been commerical ball and minimum target handloads.

The metal is deforming and locking the firing pin from retracting.

1911Tuner
4th July 2006, 07:38
Soft steel due to improper heat-treat. Series 70s and Colts built in the mid to late 70s tended to be hit and miss as to quality. Some were as good as I've seen, and others haven't been worth bringing home. Most fell somewhere in-between. The fix is the same as it was in the days before slides were hardened. The center of the breechface machined out and a hardened insert installed.

John
4th July 2006, 08:59
Good Lord, I've never seen anything like that before!

Epags
4th July 2006, 10:49
1911 Tuner: Thanks. Suspected that was the problem. I will contact Colt to see if they will do the repair but expect that since I had Tussey do a reliability job on the ejection port in 1986, Colt may evoke the 'no modification' rule and deny the warranty.

CJR
4th July 2006, 10:54
Epags,

"The metal is deforming and locking the firing pin from retracting." A word of caution. If the firing pin locks in the forward position, your piece will one day go fully automatic! I'd recommend you stop using it and get this problem corrected, ASAP.

Best regards,

CJR

1911Tuner
4th July 2006, 10:59
What CJR said, though I wouldn't be as concerned about burst fire as firing out of battery. That can be nasty.

Given that the damage was done by primer setback, I'd also have the headspace checked. My bet is that it's excessive.

CJR
4th July 2006, 11:30
Epags,

I would suggest you explain to Colt that you feel this is a safety issue that can inflict significant personal injury ($$$$). This is not a normal "wear problem" but the result of improper heat-treat in the slide that has also increased the headspace. Tussey is a respected 'smith and opening-up/machining the ejection port is not relevant to this safety issue. Over the years, I've found Colt to be reasonable and they will do what is necessary to correct problems like this.

Best regards,

CJR

John
4th July 2006, 12:31
Please keep us in the loop.

Epags
4th July 2006, 12:41
John: I will keep this thread alive until the problem is solved. Needless to say, the gun is disassembled next to the computer. I do have a second Series 70 which I will do my shooting with until this issue is resolved.

robot1911
6th July 2006, 18:11
If Colt proves to be uncooperative, Jim Clark Jr. may still make those little off-center firing pin bushings we used to use occasionally when a barrel fitting resulted in a too-low firing pin strike.
But I also believe Colt should take care of it for you.

Bob

Epags
7th July 2006, 14:37
Colt's Service Rep. suggested I send it in (it is in box and will be shipped on Monday. FYI the Colt Service Rep (Cindy) was quite professional and gave clear instructions as how to ship it. Am looking forward to their evaluation of the problem.

ejp