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ptcba
22nd June 2006, 02:19
Will anyone buy the new Taurus 1911? It is coming out in July according to a rep at Taurus.
BigO
22nd June 2006, 04:33
If they ever hit the street I may buy a Commader sized one after they have been in production for a year or two .
I have no need for another full sized one , and I considering the fact that they have been delaying the release of this weapon for so long I am skeptical of the quality of the first year or so of production .
Hawkmoon
22nd June 2006, 11:37
Will anyone buy the new Taurus 1911? It is coming out in July according to a rep at Taurus.
I heard "third quarter," which could be anywhere from July through September. This is the third or fourth projected availability date I've heard from Taurus about this mythical pistol, and if you read some other threads about it you'll find that many of us who were waiting for it have given up in disgust. Taurus has zero credibility with me, and I'm not waiting for it. After two years of empty promises, if Taurus wants me to have one they'll have to give it to me ... AND pay the transfer fees.
ambidextrous1
22nd June 2006, 11:54
There's a god chance I'll buy one; I'm not concerned about their early production. Many parts will be MIM, and those will be veery uniform from pistol to pistol. Some of the delay may be due to second-order refinement of the MIM parts. If it's not 'right' when I get it, they will honor their warranty. I have six other 1911s to play with while the gun is being reworked.
Rotorflyr
24th June 2006, 16:09
The Taurus is out, and I plan on checking them out at some point (probably the Commander sized one) but have a few other things on the list first.
Here's a link to a post on another forum by someone who picked one up
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=207072
HiVelSword
24th June 2006, 17:19
Perhaps they goofed in the PDF catalog. Every weight for each model is 32 ounces. Even the "commander" version.
I'm hoping they are available in both all steel and alloy framed version. I prefer my full sized 1911's to be all steel. I like the alloy options with shorter variants.
That and hopefully they sell so well that they expand the other calibers in the commander length to include 9mm and .38 Super.
Rotorflyr
25th June 2006, 15:43
Just read a post on the other forum by someone who says they just got one that the 5" Blued is 41.8 oz's
(according to the owners manual.)
Shipwreck
26th June 2006, 08:19
Yea, I saw that too on The High Road.
From the way he explained it - the first few batches may be the ones to get - they are probably taking more time on the fitting and stuff. When the S&W 1911s first came out - the Performance Center was working on them to insure no problems...
raveneap
29th June 2006, 08:05
My LGS's supplier has told him that the supplier's largest account got 15 guns; they were gone immediately. Apparently shipping in limited quantities which of course will keep the price up there. Been waiting since Shotshow '05, guess I can wait until the market levels out and the price comes down to a more reasonable level. In the meantime, I've got my SA to keep me happy. :)
Nortonics
30th June 2006, 16:55
Perhaps they goofed in the PDF catalog.
Taurus has been 'goofing' on the advertising of that gun ever since the very beginning. What was the originally anticipated price in the beginning? Only about $200 to $250 less than it's actually becoming. That crappy ol' marketing strategy is so ten years ago!
I'm sorry, but I'd never buy a Taurus over any of the major manufacturers for the same or close to same price - 'accurized' or not...
HiVelSword
1st July 2006, 08:06
Taurus has been 'goofing' on the advertising of that gun ever since the very beginning. What was the originally anticipated price in the beginning? Only about $200 to $250 less than it's actually becoming. That crappy ol' marketing strategy is so ten years ago!
I'm sorry, but I'd never buy a Taurus over any of the major manufacturers for the same or close to same price - 'accurized' or not...
That "crappy marketing strategy" is WORKING. Right now Taurus is selling a loaded 1911 with Heinie sights and a checkered front strap for around $465 and the prelimiary reports are that the gun is better than the pre-production samples given to a chosen few gun writers over a year ago
And it's okay if you never buy one. Won't affect them one bit.
dcowboyscr
4th July 2006, 20:14
I got kucky, my gunshop in Merritt island, Florida got 4 in and I've got one on layaway. Does anyone know how to either deactivate the Taurus safety key system permanetly or if I replace the hammer with a standard one would that work? I hate built in gun locks.
raveneap
5th July 2006, 06:30
That "crappy marketing strategy" is WORKING. Right now Taurus is selling a loaded 1911 with Heinie sights and a checkered front strap for around $465 ..........
Have you heard of any lgs's selling in that range? I know that was projected but all I've heard is one actual sale and that was the one mentioned for $540.00 ....And as usual, Guns America has one listed for full list of $599.99. Right!
whitey019
5th July 2006, 18:51
Anybody else see STI in that Taurus 1911?
I clipped this from the STI site.
"The pre-production run of the lower priced 1911 built with many high quality STI parts, but assembled off shore is "in country". If you order now, your lead time should be early fourth quarter, but remember, this one is subject to slippage due to the "powers that be" in Washington . The Sales Dept. now has pricing and we have taken, are taking, and will take orders, but the delivery is still the delivery."
Could STI be partnering with Taurus with both companies marketing an entry level 1911?
Moose63845
5th July 2006, 19:00
Anybody else see STI in that Taurus 1911?
I clipped this from the STI site.
"The pre-production run of the lower priced 1911 built with many high quality STI parts, but assembled off shore is "in country". If you order now, your lead time should be early fourth quarter, but remember, this one is subject to slippage due to the "powers that be" in Washington . The Sales Dept. now has pricing and we have taken, are taking, and will take orders, but the delivery is still the delivery."
Could STI be partnering with Taurus with both companies marketing an entry level 1911?
If STI were involved I doubt it would've taken Taurus, 2 years to make them available. Also I doubt Taurus would say that they were making the guns totally in house, if STI was that involved, unless STI just bought some guns off of Taurus. Or just decided to contract with them, and is going to have them start making guns for them. I would be less surprised though if SA came out that Taurus was involved in their Brazilian frame manufacturing.
whitey019
5th July 2006, 19:25
I don't really know; I was just looking at the similarities (slide serrations and grip safety, etc.)
dcowboyscr
5th July 2006, 20:33
Mine is on layaway still, I'll probably pick it up next Wednesday. The full price is $489.
tcurrin
6th July 2006, 09:52
Bought mine in Georgia for 429 and it is as excellent value. Shoots great. I have no complaints at all. I'm already on the list for the commander size to replace my carry gun.
Come on guys, as if you are not aware of the unwritten rule. Where are the pictures of these pistols?
As you know....
:wl:
jaybo292
6th July 2006, 15:24
I would really like to see some pics of the new Taurus myself. Come on guys. Hurry up.
Jay
tcurrin
6th July 2006, 16:08
Look here. http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/pr6650.htm
Mine looks exactly the same as that one.
You are missing the point. We can go to Taurus site and see it too. We want to see your pictures, in your own environment. Don't you want this site to be the world's largest 1911 home? Well??
raveneap
6th July 2006, 17:50
Second the motion re: pics. Talked to my lgs today. Still doesn't know when he'll get his first shipment but I'm down for the first one.
1911Tuner
6th July 2006, 21:15
What IS the deal with the checkering on the underside of the trigger guard?
Are they sadists?? :scared:
What IS the deal with the checkering on the underside of the trigger guard?
Are they sadists?? :scared:
Nice Eye Tuner !
I didn't even notice that until you pointed it out . Maybe they meant to put that on the foreward part of the guard for those that like to wrap their left index finger around there and messed up .
dcowboyscr
9th July 2006, 20:27
Well shot my PT1911 yesterday, 200 rds. of Winchester 230 gr. FMJ and 10 rounds Corbon 230 +P JHP and 10 rds. Speer Gold Dot JHP. Good slide to frame fit, nice trigger, very accurate. No stoppages with FMJ rounds. 1 jam with the Corbon JHPs when I had the gun loaded with 8 in the magazine AND 1 in the chamber, after the 1st shot, the second(or 1st from the magazine) nosedived into the feed ramp. After assisting the slide forward the rest of the rounds feed flawlessly. As for the gold dots, put the mag in racked the slide(and no didn;t short stroke it or assist in forward) and the 1st round from the mag jammed. However, shooting it it never jammed. Slde locked open after magazine was empty every time reliably, but after I got it home one mag then the other mysteriously started to fail to lock the slide open no matter what. It was if there wasn't enough spring tention in the magazine??!! Will call Taurus tommorrow and probably order some Wilson mags also. Other than that a good shooting piece.
tcurrin
9th July 2006, 20:39
Shot mine at a USPSA match on Saturday and it ran flawlessly. Shot much better than I did and I expect it will be with me for a long time. Having had a number of custom guns and "production-custom" guns, I can say that Taurus did a great job and paid attention to the details. With the previous days practice, the match, and some post match shooting with my wife I put right around 600 rounds through it with zero malfunctions. That was with a mixture of 230 LRN, 200 SWC, 225 TC reloads and 230 factory ball. I'm pleased with it.
I get the impression from a number of posts on this forum that anything built that doesn't have the name _______(fill in your favorite) stamped on it is viewed as substandard. That's too bad. Over the years I've found that those who adhere to that view miss out on a lot.
dcowboyscr
9th July 2006, 20:50
I agree with you, the Taurus 1911 has impressed me. Should be a good work horse. I just have to iron out this magazine issue, not a big deal.
Moose63845
9th July 2006, 21:28
I'm still waiting to either see it in person, or a picture of someones that isn't from a website.
stretch_b
10th July 2006, 06:05
looks like the weapon is moving down the east coast--should start heading west soon---lol. still waiting for it to make the gunshop here in Texas
Combat Controller
10th July 2006, 15:55
Howdy, longtime lurker here. I wrote up my experience so far with this pistol here:
http://www.theothersideofkim.com/index.php/forums/viewthread/13915/
EDIT: Execerpts below.
Finally! The Taurus PT1911 came in! The best part? $475 with two mags. I picked it up not an hour ago, so I will give first quick impressions, and if I can find the cable for the camera I lost in the move, I will post pics. I can’t believe the sucker finally came in.
It has a phosphate coat of some type. Front slide serrations, but not so bad overall. Ambi safety, a full length guide rod that is easy to take out as a regular one (I will probably still change it), front and rear checkering that is not to harsh, 60dpi I think. The front is the usual checker, but the edges are strapped horizontally. Interestingly enough, the bottom of the trigger guard is checkered as well. Speed bump beavertail, Heinie straight 8 sights (to be replaced) and plastic slimline grips.
Fit and finish are impeccable, tooling marks invisible, a crisp 4 pound trigger. Feed ramp looks polished, it will cycle hollowpoints, but lets wait on the range.
Downside, it has the Taurus lock on the hammer. It looks weird and I don’t like it. Upon takedown it appears to have a Colt series 80 type safety, so you have to push down the little bump to get the slide back on.
Otherwise, I think if it shoots as good as reported it is a **** of a value, especially if you like the bells and whistles. If I were to carry it, I would change very little, and that would be personal tricking out mostly.
EDIT: oh, and it comes with a takedown tool and a brush. Neat.
I will post a range report when I get a chance to hit the range (hopefully tommorow)
http://i4.tinypic.com/162a97o.jpg
http://i5.tinypic.com/162a5ac.jpg
http://i3.tinypic.com/162a8t3.jpg
http://i5.tinypic.com/162abdi.jpg
Moose63845
10th July 2006, 16:25
http://i4.tinypic.com/162a97o.jpg
http://i5.tinypic.com/162a5ac.jpg
http://i3.tinypic.com/162a8t3.jpg
http://i5.tinypic.com/162abdi.jpg
Thanks for posting the pics, I was starting to think it wasn't really out, or was extremly ugly or something.
John
10th July 2006, 16:31
Combat Controller, please, next time you have a report to post, post it here. I don't like reading a whole thread in another forum, which may or may not be there after 6 months. If copying and pasting is so difficult, ask for help.
Thanks.
dcowboyscr
10th July 2006, 17:00
Well I called Taurus customer service about my magazine spring problem today, I'm less than impressed. The operator directed me to customer service. I talked to a couple of people, that seem to know nothing about firearms at all much less Taurus firearms. All they could say was send it in, send it in. I asked to talk to someone in gunsmithing or repair(i.e. anyone with knowledge mechanical workings of the PT1911) They told me they weren't allowed to transfer people to the repair people. I have owned many sigs, glocks, hks, berettas, and a couple of s&ws, and have always gotten GREAT customer service as well as the ability to talk to the technical people when encountering a problem. I called a second time and after much convincing the "operator" transfered me to the "managers" voicemail as he is out until Wednesday(7/12). To top it all off the retailer won't touch the gun because Taurus will void the warranty if they do the slightest thing. They do however work on as well as send out for warranty work on every other brand of firearm except Keltec. I expected better service from Taurus. I will wait to get a reply from the manager at Taurus but right now I have a bad taste in my mouth, it shouldn't be this hard to get a problem fixed on a new gun or get technical information. I mind as well buy the springs or for that matter new magazines for the price/hasle it would be to send the gun in and be w/o it for who knows how long!
Moose63845
10th July 2006, 17:28
Well I called Taurus customer service about my magazine spring problem today, I'm less than impressed. The operator directed me to customer service. I talked to a couple of people, that seem to know nothing about firearms at all much less Taurus firearms. All they could say was send it in, send it in. I asked to talk to someone in gunsmithing or repair(i.e. anyone with knowledge mechanical workings of the PT1911) They told me they weren't allowed to transfer people to the repair people. I have owned many sigs, glocks, hks, berettas, and a couple of s&ws, and have always gotten GREAT customer service as well as the ability to talk to the technical people when encountering a problem. I called a second time and after much convincing the "operator" transfered me to the "managers" voicemail as he is out until Wednesday(7/12). To top it all off the retailer won't touch the gun because Taurus will void the warranty if they do the slightest thing. They do however work on as well as send out for warranty work on every other brand of firearm except Keltec. I expected better service from Taurus. I will wait to get a reply from the manager at Taurus but right now I have a bad taste in my mouth, it shouldn't be this hard to get a problem fixed on a new gun or get technical information. I mind as well buy the springs or for that matter new magazines for the price/hasle it would be to send the gun in and be w/o it for who knows how long!
I'm surprised by that, seeing as Taurus has a lifetime warranty, and I was able to get my revolver fixed for no charge but the shipping fee from the FFL I sent it form. And I wouldn't have even had to pay that had I bought it from them. I had spoken to Taurus told them my problem and the rep I spoke with said just send it in, wont cost anything to you. Took about a month or so to get it back which is a decent turn around I think.
Combat Controller
10th July 2006, 19:37
Combat Controller, please, next time you have a report to post, post it here. I don't like reading a whole thread in another forum, which may or may not be there after 6 months. If copying and pasting is so difficult, ask for help.
Thanks.
Sorry about that, I will post the relevant facts here.
Regarding the magazine problem and calling Taurus, I had the exact same problem a few hours ago, they finally told me to just mail it to them. The woman had no idea they even made a 1911.
Combat Controller
10th July 2006, 19:44
Ok, here are some gripes excerpted from my other post.
OK, first problem. I am trying to remove the plastic grips and three of the four screws strip in place after a turn. The last comes out and looks to have been glued in with a yellowish white substance. I am going to have to use an easy out on the grips.... Grrr…
Sweet flaming frenchman on a pogo stick. After cutting notches with the dremel, I managed to persuade the other three screws to come off. For this I really, really wish I had my camera cable (soon, soon). The right side looks fine, but the left side was loctited on with red loctite and *somehow* they got the bushings on it with only one slot! That’s right, the left side screw bushings have only one of the two notches required to take them on and off. How they got them on at all is a mystery. When I finally busted them loose it suprised the **** out of me. For a gun as nicely made as this one, this type of shoddy grips and screws just baffles me. I see a tiny bit of tooling in the magwell, and everso barely there in the slide, but that’s it. It looks likethe feedramp was hand polished and mated perfectly. And the mutant bushings now fit in exactly how???? I will replace them tommorow when I make a trip to Hank Fleming the gunsmith extrordinare. He will shake his head when he see this.
Judging also from the bitching about the gun online, I must say the trigger guard is normal. The preproduction ones were huge, but that is gone, and there is all the weird checkering and the stupid safety.
Ok, another problem has arisen. Magazine #1 is a mutant. Both are Taurus brand, and I thought I would try them in some other 1911’s.
Kimber, will not close on it. Not at all. forgot to try second mag in perplexity as I went to the safe to get other guns…
Auto Ord, sloooowly closed with some pressure. Locked the slide forward, serious pressure undid that little bit of stupidity. Second mag needed a bump to lock in but the slide closed on it.
Springfield TRP, no go, dropped it out placed the second one in and dropped the slide.
Norinco, Both worked perfectly.
Taurus, closes on both.
My guess? Out on the edge of spec, old GI spec. The other guns are Custom, or not GI. The Norinco and Taurus are both original spec (and this is just speculation too) . Like no other slide of mine will fit on the Kimber frame. This bears investigation in the morning, after I shoot it. I will see if it swaps parts with other guns. I guess I need to call Taurus service and get a new one, plus ask them about the bizarre grip problem.
Ok, a few things. Here (http://i3.tinypic.com/16gkgoh.jpg) is the series 80 type safety bar. Another (http://i3.tinypic.com/16gkind.jpg) angle. Heh.
Ok, so I tried it with these (http://i5.tinypic.com/16gl4ir.jpg) .45’s and a Springfield Target 5” that is not in the picture. It is completely interchangeable so far. The Norinco slide was a little tight, but otherwise it swapped all parts with an Auto Ord, two Springfields and a Norinco. The Kimber has no bushing, plus the slide channels are too fat for any other guns slide. It’s slide rattles around on other guns. The Springfields slides had less play than the Taurus’s, but that is not saying much, as it is very little.
dcowboyscr
10th July 2006, 21:29
Combat Controller, sorry to hear you are having the same magazine issues. Did Taurus let you just send the mags in or did they want the whole gun like they kept telling me? Also, I tried the 2 Taurus brand mags in several Kimber, etc at the gunshop when I bought it and the slides didn't have any problem at all closing like your mags did. Are these mags actually made by Taurus or an outside vendor, this seems like a potential QC problem. I bought a wilson magazine which very positively locked the slide catch open, gonna range test it Wednesday. Sorry one last question.....................When you have chambered a round and topped the mag off so there are 8 rds(and shooting JHPs) do you find that the 2nd round(1st from the fully loaded mag) will about 20-30% of the time FTF by going straight into the feed ramp?
Combat Controller
11th July 2006, 00:34
Combat Controller, sorry to hear you are having the same magazine issues. Did Taurus let you just send the mags in or did they want the whole gun like they kept telling me?
I was told to just send in the mag, the grips and the grip screws after filling out the online form. The form was broken, so I sent them an email and just printed it out.
Also, I tried the 2 Taurus brand mags in several Kimber, etc at the gunshop when I bought it and the slides didn't have any problem at all closing like your mags did. Are these mags actually made by Taurus or an outside vendor, this seems like a potential QC problem. I bought a wilson magazine which very positively locked the slide catch open, gonna range test it Wednesday.
The mags are labeled Taurus, and look different from other 1911 mags, so I am guessing in house, Or someone who I have never seen. The one mage works fine, but the other won't even let me close the slide on it. The mag catch is cut too low, *and* the mag lips are a tad longer.
Sorry one last question.....................When you have chambered a round and topped the mag off so there are 8 rds(and shooting JHPs) do you find that the 2nd round(1st from the fully loaded mag) will about 20-30% of the time FTF by going straight into the feed ramp?
So far no chambering problems, FMJ, FMJFP, HP (speer, WWB, golden saber). My guess is it is your mags. Do you have this problem with wilsons etc?
dcowboyscr
11th July 2006, 01:09
I haven't had a chance to actually shoot with the Wilson mags yet, but I loaded it up and tried to chamber the top round. Worked well a few times then once it chambered but I noticed the slide was slower by a small margin. Then after I figured it was the Taurus mags, it jammed again! But, in all fairness I'm gonna leave it loaded overnight to break it in and go shooting on Wednesday.
Combat Controller
11th July 2006, 13:47
Not a bad idea. I think I can manage tomorrow for an hour or so. I like to go to the private range, but the indoor is just down the street. $12 an hour though!
dcowboyscr
12th July 2006, 18:04
Went to the range today to try out my new 8 rd. Wilson magazine. Shot 120 rds. consisting of 11 Speer Goldot JHP 230 gr., 9 Corbon JHP 230 gr. +p and 100 Remington U.M.C. 230 gr. JHP. Started each string of fire with 1 rd. in the chamber and a fully loaded magazine. No stoppages at all. Slide locked open each time when empty. Now have 340 rounds total through the PT1911. So far the only problem I've had is with the original Taurus mags. Still no callback or email from Taurus about replacement mag springs. I'm gonna buy a couple more Wilson mags and highly recomend them for flawless operation.
Rio Vista Slim
12th July 2006, 19:15
You are missing the point. We can go to Taurus site and see it too. We want to see your pictures, in your own environment. Don't you want this site to be the world's largest 1911 home? Well??
I agree! May we please see some pictures that you have taken of your new Taurus pistols?
Moose63845
12th July 2006, 19:29
I agree! May we please see some pictures that you have taken of your new Taurus pistols?
Someone posted some a few pages back, along with a review.
Combat Controller
13th July 2006, 00:13
Well, what can I say? 200 rounds of UMC ball, flawless, 20 rounds Golden Saber? Flawless, some 23 odd handloads (4.5 gr tightgroup)? Flawless. Off the bench it shot a ragged .50 caliber hole at 7 yards, a 1” hole at 15 and a 2 inch at 25 yards so help me Vulcan. Offhand it got a little wider, but not much. Ran like a top and then asked for more. I really like this pistol. I used the trigger pull scale today and it broke exactly at 4 pounds. Crisp, clean, fast reset. I don’t like the Henie sights, but they work just fine. Every drill I ran came out tops. I thought I was shooting my Springfield TRP for a minute. Now that I shot it stock I will replace the FLGR and sights. I think I will keep this one.
dcowboyscr
13th July 2006, 23:01
Yeah I like this gun, never had a 1911 before, just sigs, glocks, hks, berettas, etc. all double action. This 1911 thing is addictive, I've had to fight the urge to sell off some other guns to finance more 1911s. Does anyone know when the comander and stainless pt1911's will be released?
dcowboyscr
23rd July 2006, 22:22
I'm new to 1911's, has anyone experienced one that very unreliably locks the slide open on an empty magazine???? I kept my Wilson 8 rd. mag loaded for 5 days now it won't reliably lock the slide back just like the 2 original Taurus mags. I keep my Sigs loaded for months at a time and never have any problems like this. Should I try to replace the slide stop or is this a 1911 design problem with 8 rd. mags in general?
John
24th July 2006, 00:57
Good Lord no, most 1911 will work fine with 8-rounders. Remove the slide from your pistol and put back on the slide stop, just like you do when you assemble the weapon. Then slowly insert one of those Wilson mags and see what happens. Most probably, the slide stop is filed down enough to work OK with the factory mags, but not with the Wilsons.
dcowboyscr
24th July 2006, 02:34
Sorry I should have clarified better. The Wilson mag works better by far than the two taurus mags at locking the slide open when empty. The 2 Taurus mags worked perfectly until about 200 rds in then very rarely if at all work. The wilson mag was working perfectly until I left the mag loaded for about 5 days and then emptied the mag at which time it wouldn't lock the slide back, then after trying it a few more times started to work again. I've cleaned lubricated the slide stop, etc. and still unreliable slide locking when empty. Should I try replacing the slide stop with one from wilson?
John
24th July 2006, 07:29
Do the test I suggested and see why each magazine is not locking the slide back. Most probably the slide stop is not catching up on the mag follower or the plungers spring is too strong.
Combat Controller
24th July 2006, 17:24
I had one of my two mags show up broken. I sent it back. I tend to just use Wilson's as they always seem to work.
45_4life
27th July 2006, 19:14
I must say I held a Taurus 1911 yesterday. I had never seen one up till this point. I asked if I could see it and he took it out of the glass. I must say I was VERY disappointed. Maybe i just happened to get a bad one but the fit on this gun was awful. My S/A loaded had 1/2 the play in the slide (1/16") of the Taurus and I thought the finish (black) was bellow average. If would have of guessed the movement in the Taurus slide was about 1/32" to 1/16". And that was up and down. If i was in the market for a 600$ 1911 I would save 100$ more and get a S/A. I am not flaming Taurus, I have a Taurus 38 sp. revolver and it has been great. I just expected more from the hype.
Combat Controller
28th July 2006, 11:39
I paid $475 for mine, and for the money it was a pretty good value. Mine has hardly any play, my springer TRP is tighter, but the gun cost more than twice as much. I am non plussed by the finish, it isn't terrible, but it isn't great. I am unsure what exactly it is in the first place.
Possumtrot
29th July 2006, 17:15
Has anybody seen one of these in 9mm or .38 Super yet? So far, all I've heard of has been .45 ACP, tho the other cals. are listed on the Taurus USA web site. Also, I seen references to "-1" versions in both blue and SS, as in "1911B-1". What does that mean? The web site gives no indication.
HiVelSword
31st July 2006, 20:39
Well, there is with rail and without. Perhaps it means that?
Possumtrot
31st July 2006, 22:41
Well, there is with rail and without. Perhaps it means that?
That's probably it. Makes sense, anyway.
GaryD
1st August 2006, 08:24
I heard from my distributer that the few that have come out, have not been great. The fit and finnish have been poor, according to him. What do you expect from a gun this cheap?
raveneap
1st August 2006, 12:38
I heard from my distributer that the few that have come out, have not been great. The fit and finnish have been poor, according to him. What do you expect from a gun this cheap?
Seems like the majority of those that have bought them have found just the opposite to be true. Time will tell. I'll be happy to report as soon as my lgs is able to get them in.
Combat Controller
1st August 2006, 12:47
The finish on mine is fine, I am just not thrilled by it. It is slick and feeds fine anything I have fed it, and is accurate. Mind you this is box stock, I did not even clean it first. I will report back as I shoot it more.
Rott05
1st August 2006, 18:07
Found out today that mine is in. So between now and this weekend I'll get to see what its all about. For 399.00, its hard to believe a person could go wrong.
Combat Controller
1st August 2006, 18:47
That's a good price!
raveneap
2nd August 2006, 08:54
$399.00! That's the best price I've heard yet. What state are you in?
Observations
3rd August 2006, 15:31
Yeah I like this gun, never had a 1911 before, just sigs, glocks, hks, berettas, etc. all double action. This 1911 thing is addictive, I've had to fight the urge to sell off some other guns to finance more 1911s. Does anyone know when the comander and stainless pt1911's will be released?
I ordered the PT1911B3 (compact) 2 weeks ago, and was told they'd be in within a month, but I'm not holding my breath. The distributor said Taurus was trying to fill in the orders first (variants of PT1911s), and then go into full production. Sorry, but I can't speak for the reliability of this distributor. Helpful?
Rott05
3rd August 2006, 17:01
raveneap,
I live up in N.Ill. The gunshop that is selling them is G.A.T. guns in eastern Dundee. Web page is www.gatguns.com.
Rott05
5th August 2006, 06:00
After picking up my PT1911. I brought it home, disassembled it, gave it a pretty good look over and cleaned it. For me, the firearm looked good and felt good. In my opinion the Taurus company did a nice job on it. Took it out yesterday and fired approx. 100 rnds. through it. It did'nt cough once. It appears to be fairly accurate and I'm pleased with it which is the main thing.
raveneap
5th August 2006, 09:09
Rott05, thanks for the info. Still waiting for my LGS to get some in; I'm #1 on the list and a buddy is #2 so hope to have one before too long.
Observations
5th August 2006, 14:01
I ordered the PT1911B3 (compact) 2 weeks ago, and was told they'd be in within a month, but I'm not holding my breath. The distributor said Taurus was trying to fill in the orders first (variants of PT1911s), and then go into full production. Sorry, but I can't speak for the reliability of this distributor. Helpful?
Just talked to my gun shop. Taurus is making the 1911 compacts (1911B3 and stainless) next week, and we should have delivery within 2 weeks.
larry starling
5th August 2006, 19:24
Nope! don't plan on buying one and my own thoughts are , That the gun will be full of cheap mim and cast parts. Plus for my hard earned money it needs a pony and needs to come from hartford..... :D
BigT
6th August 2006, 12:51
Just purchased my first 1911 and am also new to the forum. I purchased the Taurus PT1911 because it has the look and feel I was looking for at the right price.
FLGunner
7th August 2006, 18:35
I live in the Tampa, FL area. Anyone know of a shop with a PT 1911 in stock. Everyone I talk to says "on order."
CD MCKINNEY
12th August 2006, 09:51
I wouldn't buy one until they've been around for more than a year, as new models can have "bugs" that show themselves w/ time. Also, I don't order or layaway weapons I want because you never know what (quality) they will deliver, and I don't need to be sending things back and forth to the manufacturer which need repair that should have been right. I also disassemble all weapons I want to buy and closely inspect them, and if the dealer says no to that, I tell him to have a nice day.
Combat Controller
12th August 2006, 18:12
Well, it has been a bit and I thought I would post an update. It still has not had a single feeding problem, and that is with the new Federal expanding wadcutter, handload ball and golden saber, factory ball and GS, WWB JHP, and Speer Gold Dots. The finish wears quickly, it seems to be exactly like the finish on the early HS2000 and XD pistols, which wore off quickly. I have 1000 more rounds in a springer but the finish looks new, even after carry. This gun has been to the range and back a few times and it looks like a lot of holster wear. So, the finish is not the best. The gun works fine and is accurate though. I figure a hammer change (get rid of the safety), I already pulled out the FLGR, and new sights (I dislike henie type) and the gun will be almost perfect. I guess I ought to refinish it now too.
Combat Controller
17th August 2006, 18:01
Update: Still going strong, shot another 340 rounds and no problems at all yet. Everything from too short and too long handloads, high end defensive ammo such as Golden Saber, Gold Dot, Hydra Shok, and the new Federal expanding flatpoint, and WWB JHP. Plus UMC .45 ball. Not a single failure and I have not even cleaned it yet. I did swap out the FLGR for the last 340 rounds, and it still is accurate and fine.
Downside, the finish is not so hot, very much like the early finish on the XD, it wears off easily. That an I have heard zip from Taurus on my new grips, mag, and screws I sent them over a month ago. Must call them Friday.
Rotorflyr
19th August 2006, 15:18
As I understand it, Taurus customer service is almost always slow, but they do take care of their customers.
We've never had to send any of the 3 Tauri in the family back for any work, so am only speaking from what I've read.
Observations
20th August 2006, 06:31
Combat Controller .... please let me know what you replace the hammer with. I, too, do not like the hammer safety...... just something else to go wrong. Thanks.
Combat Controller
21st August 2006, 21:45
Sure thing. I will probably grab a Baer or Wilson, whatever my GS has laying around. I think I may have him do it, as I think I want to refinish it and put in night sights. Otherwise, I will just swap it out sometime soon.
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