STI Trojan 9MM

[robertbank]

Well I bought a virtually new Trojan 9MM. With just over 200 rounds through it I thought I would post a report.

Gun is extremely well made - hats off to the Texans.
Fit and finish is excellent - gun is very tight.
Like the adjustable sights.
Accuracy - well the gun out shoots me by mile. 15 yard accuracy is as tight as you can get. I shot my reloads using Saeco molded bullets, and Barnes RN 124 gr and all functioned flawlessly. 4.2 gr of win 231 seemed to be to light as gun would not go to slide lock on last round fired but did not miss a beat with 4.7 gr of Unique (my favourite load).

I did shoot some Win. 124 gr factory Win Clean and they functioned flawlessly as well as did a few rounds of Law Enforcement ammo I had laying around.

Wish the gun came with a 10 round clip instead of 9 +1 but that is OK. I have three clips coming which should set me up for some serious IDPA work agasint the RCMP's DA Smiths.

Trigger pull was sweet, broke about 4 lbs. I am guessing. Very crisp.

Grips are quite thin and I will replace with fatter variety as soon as funds and opportunity permit. I wish it came with an ambi-safety for those left hand scenerios. I am anal about on/offing the safety while running around.

Recomendation:

If you have not tried a 1911 in 9MM you should.

For those with arthritis problems and don't like the bark of the .45acp this is a gun worth looking at. It certainly will replace my cz 85 for sport shooting.

Aside from grips and ambi-safety both personal likes this gun is a complete package and will require no upgrades.

Regards and Stay Safe.

[Recon]

What price range do those fall in and did you have any trouble finding one?

[robertbank]

I got mine through Canadiangunutz - a gun forum up here. Gun was said to have 200 rounds through it and it certainly appeared that way when I got it. I paid $1,100 Cdm about $800US. No tax. They sell for about $1,160 new up here in Cdn dollars.

There is another one on the forum for $1,100 Cdn which appears to be the going price.

IF you like the 1911 format and find the .45acp steep on recoil this is the gun for you. Para makes one in a high capacity with their LDA system which gives you 18 round capacity. I didn't need that capacity, up here we are still limited to 10 rounds in the mag so it is kind of a non-issue.

Regards and stay safe,

[coltlover]

Bob,
Congratulations on your purchase. I've had my 9mm Trojan for two years. This gun has digested over 8K rounds to date. Have over 2 dozen pistols in the safe, this gun is the first one in the range bag every trip. With the sunset of our weapons ban, I'm currently looking for an STI Eagle 5.0 in 9mm. Hope you enjoy yours as much as I have mine.
Regards,
Mark

P.S.
Noticed you posted another thread ref. mags. Tried several manufactures.
Found the Chip McCormick 38 Super mags to be the most reliable @ about 99%.

[Stephen A. Camp]

Hello. I've been exceptionally pleased with my STI 9mm Trojan. This pistol has never malfunctioned with full-power loads and has fed JHP's with utter reliability.
The accuracy has proven very, very good.

Best.

[robertbank]

On the mag thing, Do the .38 Super mags from McCormick require any tweaking. I ask because the 9MM is a tad shorter. Not familiar with this round so excuse the ignorance. A few of the boys have them up here as I find the occassional casing at the range. From what I have read the .38 Super seems to be a more powerfull cartridge and I wonder why it did not gain in popularity over the 9MM. Interesting. Must read up on it's history.

Stay safe

[Stephen A. Camp]

Hello. If interested, here are some thoughts on the .38 Super compared to 9mm:

http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/38SuperTo9mm.htm

Best.

[robertbank]

A very consise and interesting read. Thank-you. Purely from a cost point of view the 9MM has the edge. I suspect if the .38Super got similar support of the 9MM we would see the .38 Super round coming out at the same price point.

[coltlover]

I have made no modifications to the mags. While the vast majority of my ammo are reloads, I have fired about 2k factory rounds w/o a hicup. I tend to load my 9mm a little long, but my Glock doesn't like it. My Trojan likes 147gr Ranier over 3.2gr Hodgdon Titegroup @ 850 fps. I use a 8.5# recoil spring from Wilson. This combo will make you feel like Robbie Leatham.

[robertbank]

Thanks for the reply. Ummm Robbie Leatham you say, may feel like him but may have to take it up several notches to shoot like him! :>)

Thanks again and stay safe

[CherryRiver]

Just a add-on to the mention of the Trojan not going to slide lock when empty. The STI website states specifically that the Nines don't lock open.
Bill

[robertbank]

Never have had any problems with my Trojan. Goes to slide lock fine with magazine that came with the gun. Only problem I had was early when I used to light of load.

[marko]

Hi, I've purchased a Trojan in 9mm and I need some suggests about mag for this pistol.
I've had some problems with the original STI mag (marked 38 super) and I'm asking if it exists any other mags good for this model.
I must put in evidence also I have a problem with my actual reloading ammo : Rex Yellow 4,7/4,8 grains with 122 grains bullet. With this ammo the slide doesn't lock and remains open every time/shot. This was a problem at beginning, now after several magazines the gun is working better but sometimes the slide works hard and slowly than normal...maybe depends of my reloading :) but I believe to be correct to post my experience
anyway I love this gun :)

Marco
Italy

p.s. sorry for my bad english!

[robertbank]

Hi Marko

Good luck with the mags. If your slide is not locking back on the last round then you may have a problem with the slide stop and NO amount of tinkering with the mags will help much. Contact STI and let them no of your problem I am sure they will want to have it corrected. Seems to me this is a real problem with 1911's in 9MM. To some extent the followers seems to slide to the right and then miss the slide stop.. I have metalform mags that work fine and others that don't. Megar have a good reputation and I will try them next time.

[John]

Hi, I've purchased a Trojan in 9mm and I need some suggests about mag for this pistol.
I've had some problems with the original STI mag (marked 38 super) and I'm asking if it exists any other mags good for this model.
I must put in evidence also I have a problem with my actual reloading ammo : Rex Yellow 4,7/4,8 grains with 122 grains bullet. With this ammo the slide doesn't lock and remains open every time/shot. This was a problem at beginning, now after several magazines the gun is working better but sometimes the slide works hard and slowly than normal...maybe depends of my reloading :) but I believe to be correct to post my experience
anyway I love this gun :)

Marco
Italy

p.s. sorry for my bad english!
Check the MecGars, they are made in Italy and as far as I have tried they never caused a jam in my 9mm. It's not a Trojan however.

Rgds

[marko]

Hi Marko

Good luck with the mags. If your slide is not locking back on the last round then you may have a problem with the slide stop and NO amount of tinkering with the mags will help much. Contact STI and let them no of your problem I am sure they will want to have it corrected. Seems to me this is a real problem with 1911's in 9MM. To some extent the followers seems to slide to the right and then miss the slide stop.. I have metalform mags that work fine and others that don't. Megar have a good reputation and I will try them next time.


Thanks Robert!
th eslide problem is going to resolve, actually (after several desassembly and lubrification with oil) the slide starts to work normally. I did not aspected this matter with STI honestly , in my mind I've kept this pistol as percfect gun ...do you what I mean :)
so the quality of this gun isn't in discussion for me: it's great pistol!
Peraphs my reloading was too soft for the STI slide :) , I've seen that sometimes the bullet remained coupled with the ejector when the slide worked slowly
now, regarding the mags I want to try another kind of mag because I don't like as the STI original mags work...this is my actual real problem because I've cheked often the bullet don't pushed up well into the chamber (the bullet remain with the point down, it seems like the mag don't be able to work normally...but i don't know exacltely so i need to try another mag)
Regarding the contact with STI, I'll try to contact anybody ...could be to speak with the itlaian dealer(STI import italian company) because I know should not be effective :) so I try directly to be listened from STI USA

Marco

[marko]

Check the MecGars, they are made in Italy and as far as I have tried they never caused a jam in my 9mm. It's not a Trojan however.

Rgds


John,
have you a web site of this company? I've never heard it (opsss! I'm itlalian :) )

Marco

[robertbank]

HI Marko

If you contact STI in the USA ask for Chris. I assum your problem is the slide will not lock back every time after the last round is fired. As far as the STI mags are concerned you might try stronger springs in the mags, that maybe causing the stove pipes. IF you do find the Megar mags work, please let me know by PM. IF you can't get the STI mags to work for you in your gun I'll be happy to buy them from you. Send me a PM.

[marko]

HI Marko

If you contact STI in the USA ask for Chris. I assum your problem is the slide will not lock back every time after the last round is fired. As far as the STI mags are concerned you might try stronger springs in the mags, that maybe causing the stove pipes. IF you do find the Megar mags work, please let me know by PM. IF you can't get the STI mags to work for you in your gun I'll be happy to buy them from you. Send me a PM.

thanks Robert but in Italy we have a restrective laws and we can't ship and receive via postage any gun and part of guns defined as "active part" (example: mag, ammo, slide, ect.) we can ship and receive just sights, ejectors, grips, and others "no active parts"...it's strange law but unfortunately that's it.
I'll try to buy the Megar (or mecgars...??!!) and then i'l post my impressions

I'll write to STI and if you have the mail address of Chris I'll be very glad to contact him directly

Thanks

Marco

[robertbank]

Marko

Try http://www.stiguns.com/

All the information required is right there. Don't tell any of the idiots in Ottawa about your gun laws, ours are bad enough. LOL

Regards and good shooting,

[marko]

Marko

Try http://www.stiguns.com/

All the information required is right there. Don't tell any of the idiots in Ottawa about your gun laws, ours are bad enough. LOL

Regards and good shooting,

thanks!
today I'll try to find Macgar mags , I 'm curious regarding these mags
I'll try also to contact STI also just to put in evidence this experience.

about laws, believe my friend! th eitalian are really restrictive!
for example we cannot have more of 3 handgun in catlaogue as "common gun" (that means teh major part of handgun producted!)
and 6 sporting guns.
we cannot purchase and have at home more than 200 ammo for handgun and 1500 for rifle , but it means you don't have 1500 ammo for each rifle or each handgun...for all! also if you have 3 handgun and 10 rifle, for example, you cannot have more than that ammunition!
I can show you a lot of examples regarding the italian shooters bad situation but i don't want to be boring

:)


Marco

[robertbank]

I feel for you brother. We are not as bad over here. If they tried something like that they might have a revolution on their hands. Bad enough the way it is. Good luck with your STI. Enjoy,

Stay safe,

[J.M.N.]

Just test fired my new Trojan 9mm today. I shot about 200 rounds and got one stovepipe. Acceptable in brand new gun in my opinion. Never fired the gun with the recoil master it came with, instead I put in an STI full lenght guide rod and a 15 pound spring. It cycles smooth as silk and the sights were dead on.

I also switched the standard magazine release to Chip Mccormick one. With the Chip Mccormick mag release the mag rides just a tad lower compared to the factory standard mag release. From what I understand about the Trojan (both 45. and 9mm) after reading about the matter in several forums and now from personal experience, the standard STI magazine release and allmost all aftermarket magazine releases have slighly different measurements. This means that with standard STI magreleases the mag seats "high" and with aftermarket mag release the magazine seats "low". On my Trojan .45 (wilson tactical mag release) this sometimes results to failure to feed when releasing the slide on a full mag. No malfuctions have occured during firing though. On the 9mm the slide would not allways lock back after the last round was fired. I've switched the mag relaases around between guns and on both guns the aftermarket magazine releases, both wilson and Mccormick, resulted the mag seating lower than with the standard magazine relases (I switched them around too)

If the 9mm continues not to lock back consistently I will go back to the factory standard mag release.

[robertbank]

I wish you well on the failure to lock back the slide after the last round is fired. You, I , and a number of others are/have experienced the same problem with the STI Trojan in 9MM. The problem seems to lie with the slide stop and the mags. STI sent me two additional slide stops before one worked "most" of the time. The other side of the issue seems to involve the followers in the mags. The flat followers from Metalform seem to work the best but again not always. Contact Chris at STI. He knows about the issue and from personal experience wants to make it right.

Will be interested to learn how you solve your problem as it seems to be common in more than one Trojan 9MM. In mine the gun worked fine with the mag that came with the gun but not with another new STI mag nor a number of metalform mags. It now works most of the time with all of the mags.

Other than that the gun is well built, accurate and I have yet to have a FTF issue. Love the gun.

[John]

Hehm, pardonnez moi, mais quel droit?

[robertbank]

John:

"Maintiens le Droit" is the motto of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. I have posted this as my signature line in respect and honour of four of these fine officers who were recently gunned down in Alberta.

The R.C.M.P. are well respected members of our communities and in addition as you might know serve as one of Canada's national symbols. We are justifiably proud of the work they do on behalf of all Canadians in making our communities save. Their contribution to our communites goes well beyond normal police work.

The recent loss of these fine young men troubled a nation and their memorial service held in Edmonton was attened by over 10,000 people including officers from police forces around the world. Thousands of Edmontonians lines the procession route of the marching members of the force and their comrades from around the world many from the US who attened the service at their own expense.

When you get up in the morning, breath the fresh air, walk with your children and enjoy your daily life with out fear of harm to your family and friends then you will know what "Maintiens Le Droit" means. It is special to members of the R.C.M.P. and the people they serve. Regards,

[John]

Bob, I didn't know that, you learn something new every day. Sorry about the loss of those men. I know how soft a heart you have for your mounted policement and I fully sympathize for their loss.

Rgds

[marko]

Hi Shooters!
a little update regarding my Trojan in 9:
yestarday I've had a possibility to try again my trojan and it seems the mag is working well. probably after several "stress actions" (I've left the bullet inserted in the mag for many days) and after a lubrification of slide guide I've seen that the slide open and lock well ...finally!!! :)
but the last problem I have with the mag is that the original mag doesn't enter easy in the gun...when I 've full loaded I've same difficult to push it easy and faste into the gun (sorry for my bad english I hope you understand what I mean), the mag goes back and after a great pressure finally it goes!
I'll contact STI to put in evidence these problems an i hope they will resolve these little matters soon
I love this gun and I'm sure that with out these problems could be one of the best 1911 on the market.

I've checked and I confirm that with original mag sometime the slide remains open after the last shot...I don't know if this could be a real problem or not! in my case (problem to insert the mag in the gun when the slide is closed) could be better to have open :) when th eslide is open the mag full loaded goes into quickley and with no matter!

Marco

[robertbank]

HI Marko

It is not uncommon to have this problem IF when you load 9 rounds in the mag the last one is really tough to insert. Try loading 8 rounds and see if the mag inserts easier when the slide is closed.

If you go to Metalform site and look for "Springfield" 9MM mags, they apparently are reported to be the best mags for the 1911 9MM. I am going to oder one to try out. some guys report this solves the problem of slide lock back. I am skeptacle but will give it a try and let you know how I make out.

Stay safe and good shooting,

ps Your English is better than my Italian so not to worry. PM me if I can be of any help/

[marko]

thanks Robert!
I appeciate your help and don't worry I 'll contact you if I need :)
any suggest from available people are very appreciated!
(and the forums are made for this I guess )

I know If I put 8 round the problem disappear! but if you want use the gun in IDPA competition it's necessary to have all round in the mag and the mag must work perfectly in the change operation.
I don't want to image what it would be occurred in a real "self defens situation" :) if you have a 10 round mag and the mag doesn't go inside...arg!!! better leave this gun in the holster :p

I'm joking, I like this gun but I can't be happy to have a gun doesn't work with a 9 round magazine, you know what I mean my friend
I've aspected from a great trademark like STI the perfection but...

Marco

[robertbank]

HI Marko

Look for those "Springfield" type mags. I am sure they will help. I think this business with the slide lock and even the mags is particular to the 9MM cartridge and the 1911 format. I do know a much better gun for IDPA in 9MM is the Para P-18 in either single action or LDA syle. I know the Para LDA 9MM in the P-18 format will be my next pistol. Can you get Para ORdnance guns over there?

Bob

[marko]

I try! also the macgar if I can
The Para is a good gun but the STI should be better...the 45acp maybe has better perofrmance respect the 9mm :)
the IDPA rules have the 10 round limitation and I have thought that the STI was the better choice in 9mm
I still believe that STI is better than Para (the high capacity of Para could be the only favorable element but just in IPSC not in IDPA) in terms of quality and precision
so could be my STI one of few "strange" gun producted from this industry :)
The STI hasn't a big unsolved problem...could be enought to change the magazine to have a reliable gun and I hope the STI will study another system soon

I have a question for you but I'll send you a private mess so I will avoid to fill up the forum :)

[robertbank]

I own both. Only the Para has been problem free. For the money the Para is more than the equal of STI IMHO. For IDPA the .45acp is a popular round. I think the P-14 Para would be great in LDA format in SSP. What do you pay for a Valtro in Italy. STock they are great guns, wish I had one.

[marko]

you're right Robert but considerate that I reload the 9mm for several reason:
1) it's cheaper and in Italy the cost of these materials are really expensive respect USA
2) with this caliper I partecipate into Production class in IPSC and I reload the same caliper for both (IDPA and IPSC), it is better than change various calipers (changing everytime machine reloader configuration or in opposite purchasing 2 reloader; purchasing several different reloading material..ect ect..) ...it's easier for me.
3) In IDPA the caliper don't make the difference in terms of score and results. on the other side the IPSC standard division for example has a different score for 9mm and 40mm and in this case could be bad to enter in Standard Div. with a 9mm gun :)
but I know the 45acp is popular in USA and in Canada too maybe. In italy the things are different and the most popular caliper are actually 9mm and 40mm
Maybe the cost , maybe the italians love the high capacity gun :), I don't know really how many reason exist to explain that! but probably in self defense and operative condition the 45 remains one of the best calipers of the world.

[1911Sooner]

My local dealer has a 9mm trojan in blue for $999. Is that a fair price or a little on the high side?

[robertbank]

I got mine for $1,100 Cdn which makes your deal sound reasonable. I have found you will want to use Metalform mags though. I had a world of problems with the slide not staying back on the last round. Rob Leaham mags from metalform seem to work the best in my gun, The problem seems to lie with the mag foot that pushes up on hte slide stop. Great gun though and fun to shoot with virtually no recoil. Very accurate piece. I would go for it if you are looking for a 9MM in the 1911 design. Other alternative in a Para P - 18 if you want the hiogh capacity. They are great shooters as well. Cannot figure out for the life of me why Metalform doesn't make a 10 round mag for the gun. Seems to me to be a natural.

[1911Sooner]

Well I have it narrowed down to the trojan and SA 9mm in all stainless with adjustable target sights. I like Springfields constomer service and I can get it for $300 cheaper than the Sti. If the trojan were stainless I would of bought it already.

[nemesis]

Well I have it narrowed down to the trojan and SA 9mm in all stainless with adjustable target sights. I like Springfields constomer service and I can get it for $300 cheaper than the Sti. If the trojan were stainless I would of bought it already.

I have a Springfield which I like and I carry daily but it will never be an STI. The Trojan has a flattop slide, STIppled front strap, better sights, better grips and is a better made gun.

The Springfield is a good gun but not good enough to compare directly to an STI.

[1911 Crazy]

HI Marko

Look for those "Springfield" type mags. I am sure they will help. I think this business with the slide lock and even the mags is particular to the 9MM cartridge and the 1911 format. I do know a much better gun for IDPA in 9MM is the Para P-18 in either single action or LDA syle. I know the Para LDA 9MM in the P-18 format will be my next pistol. Can you get Para ORdnance guns over there?

Bob
Hey everyone, Kimber makes a 9mm 1911 Stainless Steel, extream accuracy, well ballanced, 9 Round Mag an adjustable rear site.

[DHC]

HI Marko

It is not uncommon to have this problem IF when you load 9 rounds in the mag the last one is really tough to insert. Try loading 8 rounds and see if the mag inserts easier when the slide is closed.

If you go to Metalform site and look for "Springfield" 9MM mags, they apparently are reported to be the best mags for the 1911 9MM. I am going to oder one to try out. some guys report this solves the problem of slide lock back. I am skeptacle but will give it a try and let you know how I make out.

Stay safe and good shooting,

ps Your English is better than my Italian so not to worry. PM me if I can be of any help/
Any luck with the Springfield magazines? My wife has a Troman 9mm with all Mecgar mags. She's had a few failures to lock on last round.

She's also had some FTF problems. A healthy smack up on the butt plate of the magazine usually allows the slide to finally slide all the way forward, though. Any ideas?
Thanks!

[robertbank]

Hi

I solved my problem after talking to a local 'smith. My gun came with a 14# recoil spring. Replaced it with a 10# spring and problem went away. The slide is relatively heavy for the 9MM. A lighter spring should solve your problems entirely. I went through about 15 mags before I got this simple solution. Try it, I suspect your slide lock problems will disappear.

Stay Safe

[marko]

Any luck with the Springfield magazines? My wife has a Troman 9mm with all Mecgar mags. She's had a few failures to lock on last round.

She's also had some FTF problems. A healthy smack up on the butt plate of the magazine usually allows the slide to finally slide all the way forward, though. Any ideas?
Thanks!


I have sold my Trojan 9mm...I was not satisfated about it
regarding the mag the original Mec Gar doesn't work well so I suggest you to change it. Try the SVI Infinity single stack , are better! I've tried a couple of them and work better!

Marco

[John]

I do not know if this affects you guys, but are you aware that STI magazines are not compatible with the rest of the world? At least, this is what Virgil Tripp says, when you try to order his magazines, he has a special part number for the STI pistols.

[robertbank]

John next time you are talking to Virgil Trip tell him "Horse Hockey". What he is in fact saying is that STI gun's magwells are out of spec to the rest of the industry and from my own experience with my Trojan Virgil Trip is pulling your leg!


The problem this gentleman is having is his recoil spring in his Trojan is to heavy. The 9MM round will not recoil the 1911 slide fully with the spring he has in the gun. A 10 - 11 pound spring installed will eliminate his failure to lock back on the last round. He may also have a .45acp slide lock installed in his gun - mine did which contributes to the problem.

My STI mags work quite well in my Norinco 9MM and my Metalform mags all work well in both guns. Incidently STI does not make their own mags. Metalform was, not sure who does now.

The 9MM mag by Metalform for reasons I cannot fathom has the little foot that pushs up on the slide lock stamped to far to the right of the slide lock and I have a dozen of their followers to prove it. What the shooter has to do is take a screwdriver and bend the foot to the left edge of the mage as far as it will go and still function. The helps the foot catch the slide lock.

Stay Safe

[DHC]

I will definitely be looking at the mags and tuning the follower. Buying new mags right now is not an option... The recoil spring is an inexpensive fix that I can also try without the need of a 'smith. Though I did get a reply back from Chris at STI and he thinks the extractor tension might be too tight... I'll try the recoil spring first.
Thanks!!

[robertbank]

I should mention BEFORE you try tuning the mags just pull the slide back with an empty mag inserted in the gun. If the the little foot on the follower is below the slide stop step then you should be ok. Do the recoil spring first. Those mag followers can break so you don't need to go that route of the spring solves the problem and I think it will.

Stay Safe

[DHC]

Will-do. thanks Bob!

[DHC]

Well, finally got my wife out with her Trojan 9mm with the new 10# spring, and it's STILL failing to fully chamber the round all the time. It happens on all mags at least once per mag. I had not cleaned the weapon after out last outting, though it wasn't that dirty, so I broke it down and wiped off all of the carbon buildup (there wasn't much). I also found a nick on the ejector finger and had to gently file that flat. Sure enough, none of that fixed the problem.

I had not shot her weapon yet, so I pick it up and run a couple mags through it, and guess what?! Not a single malfunction... I think there's something my wife is doing with her grip that is causing the malfunction. I started closely watching to see if either thumb was rubbing the slide, but they weren't. Her grip looked good and solid so it didn't look like she was limp-wristing it (I even fired a few rounds limp-wristing it without any malfunctions.) I have no idea what she's doing wrong!! Unfortunately, we ran out of ammo, and had to leave anyway, before I could finish evaluating her grip.

[robertbank]

Is the slide locking back now? Should be with the 10# spring. Watch for her left hand riding the slide stop as well. I run into problems sometimes if I allow my shooting elbow bending to much. Not so much a limp wrist as the arm acting like a shock absorber ie stiff wrist but moving elbows.

Take care

[DHC]

Bob,
It's locking back just fine on empty. No worries there. It's just not going fully into battery. She doesn't have any fingers rubbing the slide to slow it down as it rides forward, so not sure why it won't go into battery. It doesn't do that to me... If I can't figure it out, a buddy of mine here is one of the 1911 instructors at the PD so he's going to try to figure it out next time we're out. Thanks!!

[robertbank]

I'll bet I am close then in suggesting here elbows are acting like shock absorbers when she fires the gun (Kind of like like wristing with stiff wrists). If the gun functions fine when you shoot it then for certain her problems are occuring as a result of how she is firing the gun. Glad you got the lighter recoil spring and it solved that one problem you were having.

The Trojans certainly are a joy to shoot and so darn accurate.

Take Care

[DHC]

Oh, she LOVES her Trojan 9mm!!!!!!! :)