1991A1 colt

[jeep]

I have a NIB 80 series colt That I never shot are these any good? Would you carry one for CCW?? IT has plastic flat mainspring housing and trigger.

[Pointblank]

I own two. They are good guns. Make sure you shoot yours with a couple of hundred rounds of the same ammunition you intend to carry in it before you use it for CCW.

[jeep]

Hey pointblank you go to the Berea show today? I got a NIB 1991A! today thats why I have not shot it yet. It came in a tan plastic Colt box with one colt mag. It was from a estate sale by the widow. Got it for $400 which I thought was a good price for a new Colt marked pistol. Will run a few 100 through it and see how she shoots. I,m 35 miles south of Cleveland. CLeaned her and oiled it and its new inside and out. Poor fellow died without shooting it. May be 10years or older.

[Hunter]

I have several Series 80 Colts in a few flavors and they all have run great. I would be sure and spend some range time with it to be sure and work out any bugs (if any) but I imagine the Colt will serve you well.

[jeep]

I went to Clots site and the 1991A1 model is no longer offered. When did thay stop production?

[Hawkmoon]

The 1991 series is still offered.

http://www.coltsmfg.com/cmci/1991.asp

[emiddio]

the same model number is still offered -- like O1991 -- but the 1992 thru 1998 guns i've owned/sold were the sandblast/parkerised finish with all black sights, plastic grips.

i still own some and like them.

the big 1991 rollmark on the side of the slide with the parkerised earlier guns- less expensive versions appears to have been retired. the currnet guns -- bought lots for inventory in 2004-2005 -- the newer M1991A1 O1991 guns cost more -- have a nicer finish, have wood grips, and white dot sights. and the roll marks are much smaller.

[jeep]

This one has the big roll stamp and parkerized finish with Blk. grips. As you say a early one. It came in a tan box. I shot it today 50 rds WW and 50 rounds of Rem ball. IT shot good without no hang-ups or jams. I only shot it at 21 feet on a combat target and it grouped good and shows promise. THis Colt is a keeper. The first 80 series I have had. All others are pre-70 and 70 series. THe trigger pull was good and crisp. I see the new ones are polished blue with nice wood grips.

[Pointblank]

No, I don't go to many gun shows. I buy most of my pistols from shops or via shops on Gunsamerica. Good luck with your new pistol.

[1911Tuner]

I've got four that were assigned the duties of hard-use range beaters. Two of'em are early 1991 production and have been in nearly constant use since day one. Those two have been rebuilt once, including swaging the frame rails and refitting the slides...and both are on their third barrels. Total count between the two is pretty well over a quarter-million rounds, give or take a thousand.

[Ric4509]

I have a SS 1991A1 I bought 6 years ago. It is still stock and she is my range gun. I shoot it 3-4 times a week at 100 rds + per. I have replaced the ejector once, and most recently the sear spring went and had to be replaced. The barrel needs replacing.

1911Tuner - what's the best replacement barrel? Thanks.

[jeep]

I,m glad to hear they hold up even being the dreaded 80series . The 80 series must be pretty darn tuff.

[1911Tuner]

Ric,

I used USGI contract barrels for the first time, and Springfield's stainless service-grade drop-in barrels for the second rebarreling at about 100,000 rounds. I considered going with Kart hard-fit barrels for the last one, but the Springfield barrels provided a perfectly adequate fit for beater pistols with 100,000 rounds. When the other two guns are due for the change, I'll probably refit the slides and go with Kart NM barrels...and very likely the Easy Fit variety.

Jeep...I removed the Series 80 parts in the older two at about the 5,000 round mark...and immediately in the newer pair. They held up well and functioned perfectly for that first 5k though.

[auto45]

Tuner,

If I may ask. Did you remove the series 80 because of the "feel" of the trigger pull, doubt their reliability for long term use, see no need, or all of the above?

Just curious. :)

[1911Tuner]

Tuner,

If I may ask. Did you remove the series 80 because of the "feel" of the trigger pull, doubt their reliability for long term use, see no need, or all of the above?

Just curious. :)

Partly because I didn't see a need in guns that were assigned to "Beater Duty" and partly because I shoot so much filthy, cast-bullet reloaded ammo...and necessarily have to detail-strip almost monthly to clean the caked-on cack out of the guns...that not having to fiddle with the Series 80 parts is a plus. I can usually reassemble a whole gun without the parts in about the same amount of time that it takes me to get just the trigger bar lever, sear, and disconnect back in. I like being able to completely reassemble a 1911 pistol in a minute-thirty or so. ;)

The two older Colts were used with all Series 80 parts in place for about the first 5,000 rounds without problems. I've also heard of the parts causing problems on occasion...and most of that has been in the last 2-3 years...and only in about 1 in 20 guns.

The trigger feel with and without the parts in place in a given pistol is undetectable in my hands, but I've never really worked hard at trying to feel the difference. I'd venture a guess that if the average Joe can tell, it's likely psychological because he knows the parts are there, and has convinced himself that he can tell the difference. A Distinguished Expert class Bullseye shooter may be able to...but it would be very little. Maybe 3-4 ounces at most.

[Xseman]

disconnect back in. I like being able to completely reassemble a 1911 pistol in a minute-thirty or so.

The two older Colts were used with all Series 80 parts in place for about the first 5,000 rounds without problems. I've also heard of the parts causing problems on occasion...and most of that has been in the last 2-3 years...and only in about 1 in 20 guns.

The trigger feel with and without the parts in place in a given pistol is undetectable in my hands, but I've never really worked hard at trying to feel the difference. I'd venture a guess that if the average Joe can tell, it's likely psychological because he knows the parts are there, and has convinced himself that he can tell the difference. A Distinguished Expert class Bullseye shooter may be able to...but it would be very little. Maybe 3-4 ounces at most.
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[Casca041]

I have only one matte black Colt 1991A1 Series 80 at the moment. This well used Colt has never failed to function and is more accurate than I am able to shoot it. I would buy it again,now, for what I paid when it had seen less range time. It is not, however, my first choice for CCW or bedside firearm. If I replaced the safety with an ambidextrous safety it would move up on my list of "goto guns". Does anyone sell a left handed only safety for the 1991 ? Right handed friends seldom wish to borrow my left handed bolt action rifles a second time.
For those us who do not always have a computer handy when a question occurrs, it would be good if "1911Tuner" would write a 1911 encyclopedia (How many volumes?) with an easy to carry companion pocket guide.
Jeep, I think you got a good deal,enjoy.
Thank you,
Cas