sights - Lasergrips

[redhart]

Any feed back on LaserGrips,or like ?

[scooter]

the only way to go.I have 2 pair on my combat commander and just got them for my eclipse ultra go here and get the straight scoop from the people who have bought them..http://forums.crimsontrace.com/http://forum.m1911.org/images/icons/icon6.gif

[redhart]

Thanks for the info, I am just getting back into pistol,and the55 year old eyes need help, How do the work in daylight? Bad weather etc.? I will check the web but ,its all wonderfull in the ads. ya know.

[scooter]

Im 48 so I REALLY understand,they are good for anything but BRIGHT sunlit days,but even I can see the sights on those dayshttp://forum.m1911.org/images/icons/icon10.gifAnd once you get them zeroed the bullets go where the little red dot is.http://forum.m1911.org/images/icons/icon14.gif

[DHC]

It's probably more of a training issue, but I find myself looking for that LRD than looking at my sights... The only way I could see getting them would be for a snubnose revolver... IMHO.

[redhart]

I seem to do ok in good light, shot outdoors today, groups were better,indoors gave me fits,next time I go inside I will look for a bay that has to light fixtue in a different place(more directly above) I think thatoff center light combined with the factory sights compounded the problem, Thanks for the info Semper Fi

[Moose63845]

It's probably more of a training issue, but I find myself looking for that LRD than looking at my sights... The only way I could see getting them would be for a snubnose revolver... IMHO.
Not a training issue that's the problem that most departments have with lasers or any kind. The officers spend too much time looking for the dot and putting it on target then pulling the trigger. It takes a lot more training than most average and working people can put in to use lasers affectively.

[Hawkmoon]

There is an additional aspect to be mindful of:

There is a form of "colour blindness" that isn't fully colour blind but really deficient colour vision. It's called "red-green weakness" and occurs primarily in white males -- actually, in a rather significant percentage of white males, although the degree of severity varies quite a bit.

I mention this because I have it. You know those colour vision tests that consist of a bunch of coloured dots in circles, and you're supposed to see numbers in them? I don't see numbers. I did on ONE test a long time ago and I got really excited -- until the tester confided that was the control dot, to weed out people who didn't want to pass the test. So I have it rather severely.

The effect is that when I attend a seminar and the presenter uses a laser pointer to point to something on an overhead computer projection -- I don't see any dot. Nothing, nada, zilch, however you wish to express it -- there just ain't no dot for me. Which suggests to me that a laser sight would probably be equally useless under many conditions (which, Murphy's law being fully operative at all times, would undoubtedly be the conditions under which I would most need it).

So before you jump into laser grips or LaserMax or any form of laser sight, do yourselves a favour and determine whether or not you can see the projected dot from a laser pointer, or find a shooting buddy who has them and try his before you buy.

[redhart]

Hawkmoon, I have shot with them on a 9mm,browning, they did the job.But the other drawback for me is cost(will I use the weapon enough to justify) and reliability,like you said, Murphy has a way of showing up,and I feel I will be complicating a machine by adding a gizmo of sorts. This is a fun gun not a s.o.s. (---- or shoot)

[Hawkmoon]

Here are some links to help those who might be interested determine if they have red-green weakness:

http://www.toledo-bend.com/colorblind/Ishihara.html

http://colorvisiontesting.com/

http://colorvisiontesting.com/online%20test.htm

http://colorvisiontesting.com/ishihara.htm

[scooter]

Not a training issue that's the problem that most departments have with lasers or any kind. The officers spend too much time looking for the dot and putting it on target then pulling the trigger. It takes a lot more training than most average and working people can put in to use lasers affectively.

I guess I am EXCEPTIONALLY above average working peoples level then cuz they"""drastically""" cut my target aquisition times in low light shooting practice sessions..http://forum.m1911.org/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Moose63845]

I guess I am EXCEPTIONALLY above average working peoples level then cuz they"""drastically""" cut my target aquisition times in low light shooting practice sessions..http://forum.m1911.org/images/icons/icon10.gif
The thing is you aren't truely trained to use them, you know how to use them and they are a tool that can help with faster low light target aquisition. It's not just low light it's all light, especially when qualifying, they don't pay attention to anything but the laser and where it is. If the target is a red shirt harder to find than just front sight press, also batteries fail and people become dependant on the laser. It is amazing how quickly you can fail a qualification after using laser sights for an extended period of time and then you can't use them for qualification, sights only. You forget how to shoot.

[scooter]

The thing is you aren't truely trained to use them, you know how to use them and they are a tool that can help with faster low light target aquisition. It's not just low light it's all light, especially when qualifying, they don't pay attention to anything but the laser and where it is. If the target is a red shirt harder to find than just front sight press, also batteries fail and people become dependant on the laser. It is amazing how quickly you can fail a qualification after using laser sights for an extended period of time and then you can't use them for qualification, sights only. You forget how to shoot.

I use sights only(daytime)
The laser actually stands out better against a red shirt(dunno why but it does)
The Batteries in my first set are a year old and still giong good
Im not qualifying for the dept. anymore just self defense(for my CWL)