1991 series or 70 series

[coonaroo]

I have been reading alot of posts in here to get an idea. I currently own springfield 1911 mil spec model. Eye sight is a bit too rough to shoot those low military sites well. I have been looking at the 1991 series and the 70 series colts. I would like to know what the differences are i.e. sights, accuracy, and price. Any help would be appreciated. Can't seem to find a dealer in my area to actually put my hands on one w/o ordering and purchasing one. Btw just happened to locate this website by chance and have found it to be a great wealth of knowledge in some areas. Thx.

[Dr. Dickie]

I have been reading alot of posts in here to get an idea. I currently own springfield 1911 mil spec model. Eye sight is a bit too rough to shoot those low military sites well. I have been looking at the 1991 series and the 70 series colts. I would like to know what the differences are i.e. sights, accuracy, and price. Any help would be appreciated. Can't seem to find a dealer in my area to actually put my hands on one w/o ordering and purchasing one. Btw just happened to locate this website by chance and have found it to be a great wealth of knowledge in some areas. Thx.

I have purchased both in the last 3 months, so I'll give it a go.
The Series 70 is a bit more expensive (about $50-$75 if I remember correctly).
If you are a trigger fantic, then the Series 70 would be a better choice for you. Not that there is anything wrong with the 1991A1 trigger, it just has a little "creep" to get the Series 80 firing system engaged. After the first two shots, the system become transparent (to me).
Different looking pistols. The 1991A1 is a bit more of a throw back, with flat MSH and long trigger (like the 1911).
The Series 70 has an arch MSH and short trigger. I find the polish (mirror like) slide on the Series 70 to be more pleasing to look upon, but like all bluing, it rubs off easily on a holster (one IDPA and I can see scuff marks).
In the end, I would say the best thing to do is get one of both, try them out for 20 or 30 years, and let us know :D
Really they both hold well the JMB design, so in the end there is only minor differences between the pistols, such that only us Colt nuts would really see and feel the differnce.
P.S.--if OD would hurry up and get his MSH in, he could show you what a Series 70 can really look like :p

[Hunter]

Dr. Dickie really covered it well so all I will add is either way you would be doing good but the Series 70 is a little more desirable.

[horse 91-A1]

I have one of the 1991s that came with an adjustable trigger and it feels like a SA revolver when shooting. :) My 1911 also has a flat MSH and they both feel really good for my hands.

As far as accuracy, this afternoon I hit a half clay at 35 yards and while celebrating the achievement missed a shot at a truck muffler. I also put 8 shots (Win 230gr JHP h/l 996fps) COM target in about 2.5 seconds at 15'. :D

Adios,
Bob

[OD*]

I'm throwin' in with the Doc, purty much sums up my feelings.

Hey Doc,
I got the MSH yesterday after I posted to you that I should contact Mike! Now, it is just a matter of finding time to swap them and getting pics (I picked up a minty .375 Big Bore Winchester yesterday too, still fonding that). ;)

[Dr. Dickie]

I have one of the 1991s that came with an adjustable trigger and it feels like a SA revolver when shooting. :) My 1911 also has a flat MSH and they both feel really good for my hands.

As far as accuracy, this afternoon I hit a half clay at 35 yards and while celebrating the achievement missed a shot at a truck muffler. I also put 8 shots (Win 230gr JHP h/l 996fps) COM target in about 2.5 seconds at 15'. :D

Adios,
Bob

There are some mighty strange varmits running around your place, Bob! :p

[guido2sc]

nothin' that Wilson's can't help, the 1991A1 is great...

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a20/guido2sc/theColt1991A1Stg404.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a20/guido2sc/theColt1991A1Stg403.jpg

[coonaroo]

thanks for the information from all who replied. I went to a few dealers these last few days and got some prices. The series 80 was right around $700. The 70's ranged from $800- $869. Just happended to price a the Gold cup they ran between $900-$919. If i step it up a notch for an additional 100 I can go from the 70 to the gold cup. Why such a small price difference? My understanding of the 70 thus far is its a gov. model, fixed black sites, no adjustable trigger. Purchasing the gold cup would add Adj. trigger, Adj. sites, and competition grade accuracy. Is all this correct. I feel that for the extra 100 dollars I'm getting alot more gun. Thx in advance for any advice

[pdoppenheim]

I have one of the 1991s that came with an adjustable trigger and it feels like a SA revolver when shooting. :) My 1911 also has a flat MSH and they both feel really good for my hands.

As far as accuracy, this afternoon I hit a half clay at 35 yards and while celebrating the achievement missed a shot at a truck muffler. I also put 8 shots (Win 230gr JHP h/l 996fps) COM target in about 2.5 seconds at 15'. :D

Adios,
Bob

How fast was the truck going when you missed your shot at its muffler?

[OJ]

I dunno about the 1991 but, I found this MK IV Series 70 ( had been looking for some time) that had been in an estate - "unfired, new in box, with manual".

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/kmastf/P2220007.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/kmastf/P2220001.jpg

After two trips to the range this week and some nearly 500 rounds through it, I conclude all those glowing things I've read about the Series 70 trigger are true - if anything, understated.

:D :D :D

[bullet8542]

thanks for the information from all who replied. I went to a few dealers these last few days and got some prices. The series 80 was right around $700. The 70's ranged from $800- $869. Just happended to price a the Gold cup they ran between $900-$919. If i step it up a notch for an additional 100 I can go from the 70 to the gold cup. Why such a small price difference? My understanding of the 70 thus far is its a gov. model, fixed black sites, no adjustable trigger. Purchasing the gold cup would add Adj. trigger, Adj. sites, and competition grade accuracy. Is all this correct. I feel that for the extra 100 dollars I'm getting alot more gun. Thx in advance for any advice

You will get a lot more gun IMHO.

I have the SS Glold Cup Trophy and I felt for my needs it was a much better pistol than the series 70. That being said if you are looking to build a custom auto the series 70 is the way to go if you are a "purist"
Of course for that matter I have been thinking about picking up the ser.70 anyway just for giggles.

I have no reasonable explination why the ser.70 and the Gold Cup are only $100+ apart I like the Gold Cup it handles like a dream and shoots just as well for a "Factory Pistol"..............

:D :D

[John]

For a carry gun, I would get the 70, for a target pistol the Gold Cup.